[DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA

Mon Feb 22 17:42:41 EST 2016

OK, sorry for replying several times, but I believe I've found the 
issue. Correction: if you are using notepad, maximizing the window 
doesn't solve the problem. The issue in question seems to be that 
notepad itself seems to randomly split text, causing dectalk to give you 
an error. I was able to reproduce the same error you had when I rendered 
one of your songs in notepad. The solution is to try using word pad 
instead of notepad so that NVDA can read phonemes properly.

On 02/22/16 05:35 PM, Mohamed wrote:
> Try pressing left arrow just to be sure you are at the proper position 
> as well.
>
> On 02/22/16 05:31 PM, Mohamed wrote:
>> OK, try making sure that you are at the top of the file, at the first 
>> phone on command. Or, if you're doing this in notepad, try maxumizing 
>> the window so code doesn't get split half way through.
>>
>> On 02/22/16 08:49 AM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>
>>> Dectalk only sings one note and it's always the wrong one. I suspect 
>>> it gets stuck at the first less than sign. I tried playing a couple 
>>> of my songs. Dectalk for NVDA always sings the wrong note before the 
>>> crash. That's why I think the add-on gets stuck at the first less 
>>> than. As an example of what's happening, attached is an unedited 
>>> demo of Dectalk trying to sing my I Made It Through The Rain song. 
>>> After opening the text file, I use the read all command, NVDA 
>>> Key-down arrow.
>>>
>>> Blake
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:*Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] *On Behalf 
>>> Of *Mohamed
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 22, 2016 3:56 AM
>>> *To:* DECtalk
>>> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA
>>>
>>> By one note, what exactly do you mean? Do you mean that you can only 
>>> insert one phoneme before it gives you an error? Is it possible for 
>>> you to, say, record a demo of what goes wrong?
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On 02/20/16 02:06 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I installed the singing Dectalk NVDA add-on from Jeff's site. I'm 
>>>> still having difficulty making it sing. I followed the instructions 
>>>> as follows:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Copy symbols.dic from the NVDA Dectalk folder to NVDA config 
>>>> directory replacing what's there.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Delete builtin.dic in program files (x86)\nvda.
>>>>
>>>> I can only get it to sing one note before hearing "error in 
>>>> phoneme." I checked the dectalk.py Python file by opening it in 
>>>> Wordpad. I found a text note there saying the program code 
>>>> requiring removal had already been deleted. Since I have no 
>>>> knowledge of the Python programming language which NVDA uses, I did 
>>>> not edit that file at all. Is there something else I need to do for 
>>>> singing capability to work in NVDA?
>>>>
>>>> Blake
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] *On 
>>>> Behalf Of *Mohamed
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:58 PM
>>>> *To:* DECtalk
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA
>>>>
>>>> Or you could, if you'd like, just install the add on on Jeff's 
>>>> site, that one is pre built, and the code is already removed.
>>>>
>>>> On 02/15/16 09:02 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the specific instructions. I somehow managed to 
>>>>> temporarily break NVDA. Perhaps I deleted the wrong line in the 
>>>>> dectalk.py file located in
>>>>>
>>>>> %appdata%\nvda\addons\dectalk\synthdrivers
>>>>>
>>>>> after editing it in WordPad. In any case, I will be reinstalling 
>>>>> NVDA and attempt to make the DT nvda add-on sing on another day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blake
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] *On 
>>>>> Behalf Of *Mohamed
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2016 6:54 PM
>>>>> *To:* DECtalk
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA
>>>>>
>>>>> It's in addons\dectalk\synthdrivers, not in synth drivers. The 
>>>>> code is commented in the .py file itself, so it should be easy to 
>>>>> find. Also, about the symbol pronunciation dialog, it has 3 combo 
>>>>> boxes for symbols. The symbol, its replacement, and preserve. If 
>>>>> you want something to go to the synthesizer, the combo box itself 
>>>>> is labeled "send actual symbol to synthesizer", you set it to 
>>>>> always for the proper symbols. Or, if you would like a dictionary 
>>>>> pre built, there's one at http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm. Just 
>>>>> find the addon labeled "singing dectalk", it contains instructions 
>>>>> on how to get it to work. And the shortcut to access the NVDA menu 
>>>>> can be changed in input gestures, in the filter by combo box, 
>>>>> search for NVDA.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/15/16 05:36 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am having trouble getting the Singing Dectalk NVDA add-on to 
>>>>>> sing. I tried following the instructions posted in September and 
>>>>>> archived here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't find dectalk.py so that I can edit it and delete the line 
>>>>>> which prevents speech commands being sent to the synthesizer. 
>>>>>> Where is dectalk.py located? I already looked in the synth 
>>>>>> drivers folder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also have an NVDA question on Snoopi's behalf. He has the 
>>>>>> latest NVDA snapshot and the singing Dectalk add-on installed. Is 
>>>>>> it possible to set up a keyboard shortcut to load the NVDA menu? 
>>>>>> It is difficult for him to enter the NVDA menu using the standard 
>>>>>> command. It is also worth noting that Snoopi and I are both lost 
>>>>>> Re: the punctuations and symbols dialog box.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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