[DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA

Blake Roberts beroberts at hughes.net
Mon Feb 22 19:38:11 EST 2016


I am experiencing the same difficulty in WordPad. Do I need to change a
setting in that program for the singing to work? I also tried opening a song
in Microsoft Word. In MS Word, Dectalk for NVDA won't even sing one note.

Blake

 

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Mohamed
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 5:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA

 

OK, sorry for replying several times, but I believe I've found the issue.
Correction: if you are using notepad, maximizing the window doesn't solve
the problem. The issue in question seems to be that notepad itself seems to
randomly split text, causing dectalk to give you an error. I was able to
reproduce the same error you had when I rendered one of your songs in
notepad. The solution is to try using word pad instead of notepad so that
NVDA can read phonemes properly.

On 02/22/16 05:35 PM, Mohamed wrote:

Try pressing left arrow just to be sure you are at the proper position as
well. 

On 02/22/16 05:31 PM, Mohamed wrote:

OK, try making sure that you are at the top of the file, at the first phone
on command. Or, if you're doing this in notepad, try maxumizing the window
so code doesn't get split half way through.

On 02/22/16 08:49 AM, Blake Roberts wrote:

Dectalk only sings one note and it's always the wrong one. I suspect it gets
stuck at the first less than sign. I tried playing a couple of my songs.
Dectalk for NVDA always sings the wrong note before the crash. That's why I
think the add-on gets stuck at the first less than. As an example of what's
happening, attached is an unedited demo of Dectalk trying to sing my I Made
It Through The Rain song. After opening the text file, I use the read all
command, NVDA Key-down arrow.

Blake

 

 


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From: Dectalk [ <mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com>
mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Mohamed
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 3:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA

 

By one note, what exactly do you mean? Do you mean that you can only insert
one phoneme before it gives you an error? Is it possible for you to, say,
record a demo of what goes wrong?
Thanks

On 02/20/16 02:06 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:

Hi,

I installed the singing Dectalk NVDA add-on from Jeff's site. I'm still
having difficulty making it sing. I followed the instructions as follows:

1. Copy symbols.dic from the NVDA Dectalk folder to NVDA config directory
replacing what's there.

2. Delete builtin.dic in program files (x86)\nvda.

I can only get it to sing one note before hearing "error in phoneme." I
checked the dectalk.py Python file by opening it in Wordpad. I found a text
note there saying the program code requiring removal had already been
deleted. Since I have no knowledge of the Python programming language which
NVDA uses, I did not edit that file at all. Is there something else I need
to do for singing capability to work in NVDA?

Blake

 

 


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From: Dectalk [ <mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com>
mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Mohamed
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:58 PM
To: DECtalk
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA

 

Or you could, if you'd like, just install the add on on Jeff's site, that
one is pre built, and the code is already removed.

On 02/15/16 09:02 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:

Thanks for the specific instructions. I somehow managed to temporarily break
NVDA. Perhaps I deleted the wrong line in the dectalk.py file located in

%appdata%\nvda\addons\dectalk\synthdrivers

after editing it in WordPad. In any case, I will be reinstalling NVDA and
attempt to make the DT nvda add-on sing on another day.

Blake

 

 


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From: Dectalk [ <mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com>
mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Mohamed
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 6:54 PM
To: DECtalk
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] singing Dectalk and NVDA

 

It's in addons\dectalk\synthdrivers, not in synth drivers. The code is
commented in the .py file itself, so it should be easy to find. Also, about
the symbol pronunciation dialog, it has 3 combo boxes for symbols. The
symbol, its replacement, and preserve. If you want something to go to the
synthesizer, the combo box itself is labeled "send actual symbol to
synthesizer", you set it to always for the proper symbols. Or, if you would
like a dictionary pre built, there's one at
http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm. Just find the addon labeled "singing
dectalk", it contains instructions on how to get it to work. And the
shortcut to access the NVDA menu can be changed in input gestures, in the
filter by combo box, search for NVDA.

On 02/15/16 05:36 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:

Hi,

I am having trouble getting the Singing Dectalk NVDA add-on to sing. I tried
following the instructions posted in September and archived here:

 <http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html>
http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html

I can't find dectalk.py so that I can edit it and delete the line which
prevents speech commands being sent to the synthesizer. Where is dectalk.py
located? I already looked in the synth drivers folder.

 

I also have an NVDA question on Snoopi's behalf. He has the latest NVDA
snapshot and the singing Dectalk add-on installed. Is it possible to set up
a keyboard shortcut to load the NVDA menu? It is difficult for him to enter
the NVDA menu using the standard command. It is also worth noting that
Snoopi and I are both lost Re: the punctuations and symbols dialog box.

 

 

Blake







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