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OK, sorry for replying several times, but I believe I've found the
issue. Correction: if you are using notepad, maximizing the window
doesn't solve the problem. The issue in question seems to be that
notepad itself seems to randomly split text, causing dectalk to give
you an error. I was able to reproduce the same error you had when I
rendered one of your songs in notepad. The solution is to try using
word pad instead of notepad so that NVDA can read phonemes properly.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/22/16 05:35 PM, Mohamed wrote:<br>
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Try pressing left arrow just to be sure you are at the proper
position as well. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/22/16 05:31 PM, Mohamed wrote:<br>
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OK, try making sure that you are at the top of the file, at the
first phone on command. Or, if you're doing this in notepad, try
maxumizing the window so code doesn't get split half way
through.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/22/16 08:49 AM, Blake Roberts
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Dectalk only
sings one note and it's always the wrong one. I
suspect it gets stuck at the first less than sign. I
tried playing a couple of my songs. Dectalk for NVDA
always sings the wrong note before the crash. That's
why I think the add-on gets stuck at the first less
than. As an example of what's happening, attached is
an unedited demo of Dectalk trying to sing my I Made
It Through The Rain song. After opening the text
file, I use the read all command, NVDA Key-down
arrow.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Blake<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black"
face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font
size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext"> Dectalk [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a></a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Mohamed<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, February 22, 2016 3:56 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [<st1:personname w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname>]
singing Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><font
color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font
size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">By one note, what exactly
do you mean? Do you mean that you can only insert
one phoneme before it gives you an error? Is it
possible for you to, say, record a demo of what goes
wrong?<br>
Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">On 02/20/16 02:06 PM,
Blake Roberts wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"
cite="mid:690A7E3678AF4E70AFCEF4AFE217FAF8@Blakethegreat"
type="cite"><u1:smarttagtype
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I installed
the singing Dectalk NVDA add-on from Jeff's
site. I'm still having difficulty making it
sing. I followed the instructions as follows:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">1. Copy
symbols.dic from the NVDA Dectalk folder to NVDA
config directory replacing what's there.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">2. Delete
builtin.dic in program files (x86)\nvda.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I can only
get it to sing one note before hearing "error in
phoneme." I checked the dectalk.py Python file
by opening it in Wordpad. I found a text note
there saying the program code requiring removal
had already been deleted. Since I have no
knowledge of the Python programming language
which NVDA uses, I did not edit that file at
all. Is there something else I need to do for
singing capability to work in NVDA?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Blake<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black"
face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font
size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext"> Dectalk [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a></a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Mohamed<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:58 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
<st1:personname u4:st="on"><st1:personname
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [<st1:personname u4:st="on"><st1:personname
w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:personname>]
singing Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<u1:p></u1:p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times\000D\000A New
Roman""><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font
size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Or you could, if you'd
like, just install the add on on Jeff's site,
that one is pre built, and the code is already
removed.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">On 02/15/16 09:02 PM,
Blake Roberts wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</xml><![endif]-->Thanks for the specific instructions. I somehow
managed to temporarily break NVDA. Perhaps I
deleted the wrong line in the dectalk.py
file located in<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">%appdata%\nvda\</span></font>addons\dectalk\synthdrivers<u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times\000D\000A
New Roman"">after editing it in
WordPad. In any case, I will be reinstalling
NVDA and attempt to make the DT nvda add-on
sing on another day.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times\000D\000A
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<u5:p></u5:p>
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face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2"
color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold"></span>From:</font></b><font
size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext"> Dectalk [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a></a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Mohamed<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, February 15, 2016 6:54 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
<st1:personname u6:st="on"><st1:personname
u4:st="on"><st1:personname w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:personname></st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [<st1:personname u6:st="on"><st1:personname
u4:st="on"><st1:personname w:st="on">DECtalk</st1:personname></st1:personname></st1:personname>]
singing Dectalk and NVDA</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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<u5:p></u5:p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times\000D\000A
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font
size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">It's in
addons\dectalk\synthdrivers, not in synth
drivers. The code is commented in the .py
file itself, so it should be easy to find.
Also, about the symbol pronunciation dialog,
it has 3 combo boxes for symbols. The
symbol, its replacement, and preserve. If
you want something to go to the synthesizer,
the combo box itself is labeled "send actual
symbol to synthesizer", you set it to always
for the proper symbols. Or, if you would
like a dictionary pre built, there's one at
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm">http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm</a>.
Just find the addon labeled "singing
dectalk", it contains instructions on how to
get it to work. And the shortcut to access
the NVDA menu can be changed in input
gestures, in the filter by combo box, search
for NVDA.<u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">On 02/15/16 05:36
PM, Blake Roberts wrote:<u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
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style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Hi,<u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="black" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">I am having
trouble getting the Singing Dectalk NVDA
add-on to sing. I tried following the
instructions posted in September and
archived here:<u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="black" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html">http://bluegrasspals.com/pipermail/dectalk/2015-September/004408.html</a></a><u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="black" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">I can't find
dectalk.py so that I can edit it and
delete the line which prevents speech
commands being sent to the synthesizer.
Where is dectalk.py located? I already
looked in the synth drivers folder.<u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
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style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u9:p> </u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="black" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">I also have an
NVDA question on Snoopi's behalf. He has
the latest NVDA snapshot and the singing
Dectalk add-on installed. Is it possible
to set up a keyboard shortcut to load the
NVDA menu? It is difficult for him to
enter the NVDA menu using the standard
command. It is also worth noting that
Snoopi and I are both lost Re: the
punctuations and symbols dialog box.<u9:p></u9:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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