[DECtalk] another creation

Ulysses Garcia birdlover2002 at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 4 23:44:59 EST 2014


Luca, Sweet Anne, Tonio, Oliver, and Big Alex.
On 2/4/2014 8:03 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Which Vocaloid voices are English voices?
> Thanks.
>
> On 2/4/2014 2:05 AM, Ulysses Garcia wrote:
>> Hi everybody: Today, I will be showing you some ground-breaking 
>> discoveries many of you thought would never come. But it was my 
>> perseverance and patience that did it, and collaboration with other 
>> people who were like me but who lacked motivation in some ways. Now, 
>> I am trying to reach out to as many blind people, whom I know have a 
>> major interest in singing synthesisers, that there is a way after 
>> all, a way that many, including myself would never be here. Sometimes 
>> I ask for directions, but the person giving it to me does not give me 
>> detailed step-by-step documentation-style directions, which has lead 
>> me to be hampered with all of the work. Soon I discovered this new 
>> method and now I am sharing it. Sadly, there has been very little 
>> enthusiasm throughout the forums to which I am subscribed to.
>> I first remember being fascinated with singing synthesisers back in 
>> June of 2007. I did not know much about linguistics at that time, 
>> neither did I know about music notation. I just learned how to make 
>> Dec talk sing using my knowledge of time and note and after 
>> understanding phonemes I cranked out quite a number of songs. Then I 
>> learnt how to harmonise and then two years later I learned how to 
>> back-mask with phonemes. Eventually though I came across speech 
>> synthesisers that sounded much better than Dec talk that somehow made 
>> me feel that Dec talk was now inferior because it sounded so bright 
>> where as the others sounded dark. The first one that I really liked 
>> was Vocal Writer, and I was doing research on it. Unfortunately, 
>> however, it was meant for the Macintosh. So I put that in my to do 
>> list, and when I found a Mac I could work with, I installed Vocal 
>> Writer. Then I found out that Voice-over was not working well with 
>> it, so I asked about it. It turned out that two people learned how to 
>> use it. Hugh Emerson and Flint Million. However, there were no links 
>> to these external resources, so I was stumped. At that same time, 
>> however, I learned about Vocaloid, and I remember trying to find a 
>> way to get a hold of it. Eventually I gave that up and I assumed it 
>> was going to be only in Japanese. Then, in 2013, I finally found  
>> away to obtain Vocaloid, and for about four months I kind of did not 
>> use it until I got a hunch that lead me to try something. Apparently 
>> someone said you had to have someone select the first note for you 
>> before you could insert lyrics. Well, what if you selected all? So I 
>> tried that and sure enough, it worked perfectly. But guess what? I 
>> was surprised that I was not even excited. Maybe because I knew it 
>> was right there, but have not yet figured it out? I knew I learned ow 
>> to make eloquence sing based on learning and my creativity, and 
>> someone helped me how to make Orpheus sing, but I lost interest in 
>> those right a way. But with this, it will be something I will be 
>> using for a long time.
>> Soon after my big discovery, I spent one week exactly turning a lot 
>> of my MIDI collections into real songs. And this struck me as funny 
>> because a few days before this, someone posted on the Dec talk 
>> mailing list that they heard of a MIDI to Dec talk converter. I knew 
>> there was no such thing because now we already know how Vocaloid and 
>> Vocal Writer and Flinger work. So, now I am willing to share the 
>> directions with anyone who is interested and I hope we can recruit 
>> more blind people and renew the enthusiasm.
>> After you read the below steps, you will finally learn how to make 
>> Vocaloid sing just about anything you wanted to. Note that Vocaloid 
>> Editor 3 only provides the voices. To mix in instruments you will 
>> need some kind of a sound editor. You will also need this if you are 
>> to make choral pieces of some sort.
>> To begin, use a midi sequencer like Quick Windows Sequencer. Make 
>> sure the notes are precisely timed with the metronome though, or else 
>> you will have to normalise with Vocaloid. Not only that but Vocaloid 
>> will count any irregular notes in your song and this can mess up your 
>> project.
>> Once you set up your MIDI roll, open Vocaloid and when you open a 
>> file, choose Vocaloid MIDI from the files of type drop down menu 
>> list. Locate the file and press enter. A list of tracks will appear. 
>> Check only one and do not bother with any of the others. Before 
>> adding lyrics, you will need to press space to play, and when it 
>> tells you that there are overlapping notes, go to the jobs menu and 
>> press enter on normalise.
>> Next, go to the edit menu, and find the select all. Alternatively, 
>> press control+A. This will select all the notes in the musical editor 
>> window, which is where you need to be or else this will not work. 
>> Once you have done this, go back to the jobs menu and find the insert 
>> lyrics item.
>> When an edit multi-line appears, you will see "oh ooh ooh" depending 
>> on how many notes there are. Note that each ooh represents one 
>> syllable tied to that note, so if you had a word that had more than 
>> one you would have to separate them using dashes. You cannot write 
>> any nonsense words because it  will check the dictionary.
>> Lyrical notation: For those of you who are music Braille readers or 
>> just musicians  in general, this might be easy to understand. A 
>> syllable is simply a combo of vowel and consonants like this 'word' 
>> in single quotes. When a word is more than one syllable and it evenly 
>> ties to notes, you or Vocaloid will put dashes, like this. Hel- lo I 
>> am des-cri-bing how to write ly-rics with Voca-loid. For words that 
>> stretch across multiple notes such as in the example Angels we have 
>> heard on High in the word Gloria, you will have to find your 
>> own-fill-in for now, but do not use dashes for this. Also make sure 
>> your MIDI file has the right number of notes for each syllable. Some 
>> people try to hush a two-syllable word into one note that is tied 
>> only to find out that it does not work, so instead, separate them 
>> with MIDI and try again.
>>  Vocaloid is pretty good at analysing words though, and if you want 
>> you can use phonemes if you are dealing with a tricky word Vocaloid 
>> cannot pronounce or if you want to be really accurate.
>> Once you have finished, check the song to make sure you have the 
>> words right. This may take time and I nearly gave up on it. After you 
>> finished, save the VSQX to your hard drive, and then you can export 
>> the result as a wave file.
>> From now on, you will have to repeat the above steps if you want to 
>> do the same thing to the other tracks. Eventually you will want to 
>> establish a suffix for each wave file you are working with so you can 
>> mix them later.
>> Note: To change voices, press control+tab to go to the track editor, 
>> press control+a to select all parts, press alternate+p for parts 
>> menu, and up arrow for part properties. Depending on how many voices 
>> you have installed, you can select which voice you would like to use 
>> for that part. After selecting your voice press enter. You will have 
>> to experiment with really slow work-arounds, like mixing and 
>> rendering. It is a pain, but this is the best method that does not 
>> require any other form. And as always, you can experiment on your 
>> own, to learn how to make Vocaloid sound more human. These include 
>> things like adding breath sounds, portamentos, vibratos, and more.
>> Now that I am a pro, it takes me about five to ten minutes to write 
>> up a short song. I hope you found these directions simple to read and 
>> feel free to ask any questions. I am sure that from this point on, 
>> experimentation will be entirely up to you to be creative in the long 
>> run. I know I did.
>> On 2/3/2014 1:18 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Can someone send me the manual for using Vocaloid as a blind person? 
>>> I don't have it, but I'm always interested in things like this. 
>>> Also, how much does it cost?
>>> Jayson
>>>
>>> On 2/2/2014 12:26 PM, Jake McMahan wrote:
>>>>    Let me elaborate a little. It's very accessible and I think mr. 
>>>> Garcia deserves the credit for showing us how to use such a 
>>>> groundbreaking piece of technology.  He and I might use different 
>>>> sound editors and stuff, but he's a lot better at it then I am.  
>>>> The only problem with vocaloid is it is very big, and each english 
>>>> voice can range from 400 mb to 1 gb.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jayson Smith
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 12:17 PM
>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] another creation
>>>>
>>>> Wo, there *is* a way to accessibly use Vocaloid? Just to be clear, 
>>>> is this workable for people who are totally blind?
>>>> Jayson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Ulysses Garcia <birdlover2002 at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 00:15:25 -0800
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] another creation
>>>>
>>>>> It's actually Vocaloid, and hadn't it been for my inspiration, the
>>>>> creator would not have known how to make it. I sent out the manual on
>>>>> how to use it in an accessible format, but it seemed no one was 
>>>>> interested.
>>>>> On 2/1/2014 11:48 PM, Tyler wrote:
>>>>> > That sounds like it could be Vocaloid or something similar with 
>>>>> vocoder > voices!
>>>>> > Tyler Z
>>>>> > On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 23:29:26 -0500, Jake McMahan wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Hey people:
>>>>> >> Check out this funny little piece that I wrote to pick on my 
>>>>> cousin >> shaneâEUR^(TM)s
>>>>> >> inteligence levil.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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