[DECtalk] another creation
Jayson Smith
jaybird at bluegrasspals.com
Tue Feb 4 23:03:22 EST 2014
Hi,
Which Vocaloid voices are English voices?
Thanks.
On 2/4/2014 2:05 AM, Ulysses Garcia wrote:
> Hi everybody: Today, I will be showing you some ground-breaking
> discoveries many of you thought would never come. But it was my
> perseverance and patience that did it, and collaboration with other
> people who were like me but who lacked motivation in some ways. Now, I
> am trying to reach out to as many blind people, whom I know have a
> major interest in singing synthesisers, that there is a way after all,
> a way that many, including myself would never be here. Sometimes I ask
> for directions, but the person giving it to me does not give me
> detailed step-by-step documentation-style directions, which has lead
> me to be hampered with all of the work. Soon I discovered this new
> method and now I am sharing it. Sadly, there has been very little
> enthusiasm throughout the forums to which I am subscribed to.
> I first remember being fascinated with singing synthesisers back in
> June of 2007. I did not know much about linguistics at that time,
> neither did I know about music notation. I just learned how to make
> Dec talk sing using my knowledge of time and note and after
> understanding phonemes I cranked out quite a number of songs. Then I
> learnt how to harmonise and then two years later I learned how to
> back-mask with phonemes. Eventually though I came across speech
> synthesisers that sounded much better than Dec talk that somehow made
> me feel that Dec talk was now inferior because it sounded so bright
> where as the others sounded dark. The first one that I really liked
> was Vocal Writer, and I was doing research on it. Unfortunately,
> however, it was meant for the Macintosh. So I put that in my to do
> list, and when I found a Mac I could work with, I installed Vocal
> Writer. Then I found out that Voice-over was not working well with it,
> so I asked about it. It turned out that two people learned how to use
> it. Hugh Emerson and Flint Million. However, there were no links to
> these external resources, so I was stumped. At that same time,
> however, I learned about Vocaloid, and I remember trying to find a way
> to get a hold of it. Eventually I gave that up and I assumed it was
> going to be only in Japanese. Then, in 2013, I finally found away to
> obtain Vocaloid, and for about four months I kind of did not use it
> until I got a hunch that lead me to try something. Apparently someone
> said you had to have someone select the first note for you before you
> could insert lyrics. Well, what if you selected all? So I tried that
> and sure enough, it worked perfectly. But guess what? I was surprised
> that I was not even excited. Maybe because I knew it was right there,
> but have not yet figured it out? I knew I learned ow to make eloquence
> sing based on learning and my creativity, and someone helped me how to
> make Orpheus sing, but I lost interest in those right a way. But with
> this, it will be something I will be using for a long time.
> Soon after my big discovery, I spent one week exactly turning a lot of
> my MIDI collections into real songs. And this struck me as funny
> because a few days before this, someone posted on the Dec talk mailing
> list that they heard of a MIDI to Dec talk converter. I knew there was
> no such thing because now we already know how Vocaloid and Vocal
> Writer and Flinger work. So, now I am willing to share the directions
> with anyone who is interested and I hope we can recruit more blind
> people and renew the enthusiasm.
> After you read the below steps, you will finally learn how to make
> Vocaloid sing just about anything you wanted to. Note that Vocaloid
> Editor 3 only provides the voices. To mix in instruments you will need
> some kind of a sound editor. You will also need this if you are to
> make choral pieces of some sort.
> To begin, use a midi sequencer like Quick Windows Sequencer. Make sure
> the notes are precisely timed with the metronome though, or else you
> will have to normalise with Vocaloid. Not only that but Vocaloid will
> count any irregular notes in your song and this can mess up your project.
> Once you set up your MIDI roll, open Vocaloid and when you open a
> file, choose Vocaloid MIDI from the files of type drop down menu list.
> Locate the file and press enter. A list of tracks will appear. Check
> only one and do not bother with any of the others. Before adding
> lyrics, you will need to press space to play, and when it tells you
> that there are overlapping notes, go to the jobs menu and press enter
> on normalise.
> Next, go to the edit menu, and find the select all. Alternatively,
> press control+A. This will select all the notes in the musical editor
> window, which is where you need to be or else this will not work. Once
> you have done this, go back to the jobs menu and find the insert
> lyrics item.
> When an edit multi-line appears, you will see "oh ooh ooh" depending
> on how many notes there are. Note that each ooh represents one
> syllable tied to that note, so if you had a word that had more than
> one you would have to separate them using dashes. You cannot write any
> nonsense words because it will check the dictionary.
> Lyrical notation: For those of you who are music Braille readers or
> just musicians in general, this might be easy to understand. A
> syllable is simply a combo of vowel and consonants like this 'word' in
> single quotes. When a word is more than one syllable and it evenly
> ties to notes, you or Vocaloid will put dashes, like this. Hel- lo I
> am des-cri-bing how to write ly-rics with Voca-loid. For words that
> stretch across multiple notes such as in the example Angels we have
> heard on High in the word Gloria, you will have to find your
> own-fill-in for now, but do not use dashes for this. Also make sure
> your MIDI file has the right number of notes for each syllable. Some
> people try to hush a two-syllable word into one note that is tied only
> to find out that it does not work, so instead, separate them with MIDI
> and try again.
> Vocaloid is pretty good at analysing words though, and if you want
> you can use phonemes if you are dealing with a tricky word Vocaloid
> cannot pronounce or if you want to be really accurate.
> Once you have finished, check the song to make sure you have the words
> right. This may take time and I nearly gave up on it. After you
> finished, save the VSQX to your hard drive, and then you can export
> the result as a wave file.
> From now on, you will have to repeat the above steps if you want to do
> the same thing to the other tracks. Eventually you will want to
> establish a suffix for each wave file you are working with so you can
> mix them later.
> Note: To change voices, press control+tab to go to the track editor,
> press control+a to select all parts, press alternate+p for parts menu,
> and up arrow for part properties. Depending on how many voices you
> have installed, you can select which voice you would like to use for
> that part. After selecting your voice press enter. You will have to
> experiment with really slow work-arounds, like mixing and rendering.
> It is a pain, but this is the best method that does not require any
> other form. And as always, you can experiment on your own, to learn
> how to make Vocaloid sound more human. These include things like
> adding breath sounds, portamentos, vibratos, and more.
> Now that I am a pro, it takes me about five to ten minutes to write up
> a short song. I hope you found these directions simple to read and
> feel free to ask any questions. I am sure that from this point on,
> experimentation will be entirely up to you to be creative in the long
> run. I know I did.
> On 2/3/2014 1:18 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can someone send me the manual for using Vocaloid as a blind person?
>> I don't have it, but I'm always interested in things like this. Also,
>> how much does it cost?
>> Jayson
>>
>> On 2/2/2014 12:26 PM, Jake McMahan wrote:
>>> Let me elaborate a little. It's very accessible and I think mr.
>>> Garcia deserves the credit for showing us how to use such a
>>> groundbreaking piece of technology. He and I might use different
>>> sound editors and stuff, but he's a lot better at it then I am. The
>>> only problem with vocaloid is it is very big, and each english voice
>>> can range from 400 mb to 1 gb.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jayson Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 12:17 PM
>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] another creation
>>>
>>> Wo, there *is* a way to accessibly use Vocaloid? Just to be clear,
>>> is this workable for people who are totally blind?
>>> Jayson
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ulysses Garcia <birdlover2002 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: DECtalk Discussions <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 00:15:25 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] another creation
>>>
>>>> It's actually Vocaloid, and hadn't it been for my inspiration, the
>>>> creator would not have known how to make it. I sent out the manual on
>>>> how to use it in an accessible format, but it seemed no one was
>>>> interested.
>>>> On 2/1/2014 11:48 PM, Tyler wrote:
>>>> > That sounds like it could be Vocaloid or something similar with
>>>> vocoder > voices!
>>>> > Tyler Z
>>>> > On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 23:29:26 -0500, Jake McMahan wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hey people:
>>>> >> Check out this funny little piece that I wrote to pick on my
>>>> cousin >> shaneâEUR^(TM)s
>>>> >> inteligence levil.
>>>> >>
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