[DECtalk] another creation
Jake McMahan
mcmahan.jake at gmail.com
Wed Feb 5 08:12:18 EST 2014
you also have sonika and prima who are also english voices. Plus, there
are a few other voices like guni who have voices in english as well. But
the main ones we use are sweet ann, tonio, olliver, luka and big Al.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ulysses Garcia
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:44 PM
To: DECtalk Discussions
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] another creation
Luca, Sweet Anne, Tonio, Oliver, and Big Alex.
On 2/4/2014 8:03 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Which Vocaloid voices are English voices?
> Thanks.
>
> On 2/4/2014 2:05 AM, Ulysses Garcia wrote:
>> Hi everybody: Today, I will be showing you some ground-breaking
>> discoveries many of you thought would never come. But it was my
>> perseverance and patience that did it, and collaboration with other
>> people who were like me but who lacked motivation in some ways. Now, I am
>> trying to reach out to as many blind people, whom I know have a major
>> interest in singing synthesisers, that there is a way after all, a way
>> that many, including myself would never be here. Sometimes I ask for
>> directions, but the person giving it to me does not give me detailed
>> step-by-step documentation-style directions, which has lead me to be
>> hampered with all of the work. Soon I discovered this new method and now
>> I am sharing it. Sadly, there has been very little enthusiasm throughout
>> the forums to which I am subscribed to.
>> I first remember being fascinated with singing synthesisers back in June
>> of 2007. I did not know much about linguistics at that time, neither did
>> I know about music notation. I just learned how to make Dec talk sing
>> using my knowledge of time and note and after understanding phonemes I
>> cranked out quite a number of songs. Then I learnt how to harmonise and
>> then two years later I learned how to back-mask with phonemes. Eventually
>> though I came across speech synthesisers that sounded much better than
>> Dec talk that somehow made me feel that Dec talk was now inferior because
>> it sounded so bright where as the others sounded dark. The first one that
>> I really liked was Vocal Writer, and I was doing research on it.
>> Unfortunately, however, it was meant for the Macintosh. So I put that in
>> my to do list, and when I found a Mac I could work with, I installed
>> Vocal Writer. Then I found out that Voice-over was not working well with
>> it, so I asked about it. It turned out that two people learned how to use
>> it. Hugh Emerson and Flint Million. However, there were no links to these
>> external resources, so I was stumped. At that same time, however, I
>> learned about Vocaloid, and I remember trying to find a way to get a hold
>> of it. Eventually I gave that up and I assumed it was going to be only in
>> Japanese. Then, in 2013, I finally found away to obtain Vocaloid, and
>> for about four months I kind of did not use it until I got a hunch that
>> lead me to try something. Apparently someone said you had to have someone
>> select the first note for you before you could insert lyrics. Well, what
>> if you selected all? So I tried that and sure enough, it worked
>> perfectly. But guess what? I was surprised that I was not even excited.
>> Maybe because I knew it was right there, but have not yet figured it out?
>> I knew I learned ow to make eloquence sing based on learning and my
>> creativity, and someone helped me how to make Orpheus sing, but I lost
>> interest in those right a way. But with this, it will be something I will
>> be using for a long time.
>> Soon after my big discovery, I spent one week exactly turning a lot of my
>> MIDI collections into real songs. And this struck me as funny because a
>> few days before this, someone posted on the Dec talk mailing list that
>> they heard of a MIDI to Dec talk converter. I knew there was no such
>> thing because now we already know how Vocaloid and Vocal Writer and
>> Flinger work. So, now I am willing to share the directions with anyone
>> who is interested and I hope we can recruit more blind people and renew
>> the enthusiasm.
>> After you read the below steps, you will finally learn how to make
>> Vocaloid sing just about anything you wanted to. Note that Vocaloid
>> Editor 3 only provides the voices. To mix in instruments you will need
>> some kind of a sound editor. You will also need this if you are to make
>> choral pieces of some sort.
>> To begin, use a midi sequencer like Quick Windows Sequencer. Make sure
>> the notes are precisely timed with the metronome though, or else you will
>> have to normalise with Vocaloid. Not only that but Vocaloid will count
>> any irregular notes in your song and this can mess up your project.
>> Once you set up your MIDI roll, open Vocaloid and when you open a file,
>> choose Vocaloid MIDI from the files of type drop down menu list. Locate
>> the file and press enter. A list of tracks will appear. Check only one
>> and do not bother with any of the others. Before adding lyrics, you will
>> need to press space to play, and when it tells you that there are
>> overlapping notes, go to the jobs menu and press enter on normalise.
>> Next, go to the edit menu, and find the select all. Alternatively, press
>> control+A. This will select all the notes in the musical editor window,
>> which is where you need to be or else this will not work. Once you have
>> done this, go back to the jobs menu and find the insert lyrics item.
>> When an edit multi-line appears, you will see "oh ooh ooh" depending on
>> how many notes there are. Note that each ooh represents one syllable tied
>> to that note, so if you had a word that had more than one you would have
>> to separate them using dashes. You cannot write any nonsense words
>> because it will check the dictionary.
>> Lyrical notation: For those of you who are music Braille readers or just
>> musicians in general, this might be easy to understand. A syllable is
>> simply a combo of vowel and consonants like this 'word' in single quotes.
>> When a word is more than one syllable and it evenly ties to notes, you or
>> Vocaloid will put dashes, like this. Hel- lo I am des-cri-bing how to
>> write ly-rics with Voca-loid. For words that stretch across multiple
>> notes such as in the example Angels we have heard on High in the word
>> Gloria, you will have to find your own-fill-in for now, but do not use
>> dashes for this. Also make sure your MIDI file has the right number of
>> notes for each syllable. Some people try to hush a two-syllable word into
>> one note that is tied only to find out that it does not work, so instead,
>> separate them with MIDI and try again.
>> Vocaloid is pretty good at analysing words though, and if you want you
>> can use phonemes if you are dealing with a tricky word Vocaloid cannot
>> pronounce or if you want to be really accurate.
>> Once you have finished, check the song to make sure you have the words
>> right. This may take time and I nearly gave up on it. After you finished,
>> save the VSQX to your hard drive, and then you can export the result as a
>> wave file.
>> From now on, you will have to repeat the above steps if you want to do
>> the same thing to the other tracks. Eventually you will want to establish
>> a suffix for each wave file you are working with so you can mix them
>> later.
>> Note: To change voices, press control+tab to go to the track editor,
>> press control+a to select all parts, press alternate+p for parts menu,
>> and up arrow for part properties. Depending on how many voices you have
>> installed, you can select which voice you would like to use for that
>> part. After selecting your voice press enter. You will have to experiment
>> with really slow work-arounds, like mixing and rendering. It is a pain,
>> but this is the best method that does not require any other form. And as
>> always, you can experiment on your own, to learn how to make Vocaloid
>> sound more human. These include things like adding breath sounds,
>> portamentos, vibratos, and more.
>> Now that I am a pro, it takes me about five to ten minutes to write up a
>> short song. I hope you found these directions simple to read and feel
>> free to ask any questions. I am sure that from this point on,
>> experimentation will be entirely up to you to be creative in the long
>> run. I know I did.
>> On 2/3/2014 1:18 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Can someone send me the manual for using Vocaloid as a blind person? I
>>> don't have it, but I'm always interested in things like this. Also, how
>>> much does it cost?
>>> Jayson
>>>
>>> On 2/2/2014 12:26 PM, Jake McMahan wrote:
>>>> Let me elaborate a little. It's very accessible and I think mr.
>>>> Garcia deserves the credit for showing us how to use such a
>>>> groundbreaking piece of technology. He and I might use different sound
>>>> editors and stuff, but he's a lot better at it then I am. The only
>>>> problem with vocaloid is it is very big, and each english voice can
>>>> range from 400 mb to 1 gb.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jayson Smith
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 12:17 PM
>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] another creation
>>>>
>>>> Wo, there *is* a way to accessibly use Vocaloid? Just to be clear, is
>>>> this workable for people who are totally blind?
>>>> Jayson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Ulysses Garcia <birdlover2002 at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 00:15:25 -0800
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] another creation
>>>>
>>>>> It's actually Vocaloid, and hadn't it been for my inspiration, the
>>>>> creator would not have known how to make it. I sent out the manual on
>>>>> how to use it in an accessible format, but it seemed no one was
>>>>> interested.
>>>>> On 2/1/2014 11:48 PM, Tyler wrote:
>>>>> > That sounds like it could be Vocaloid or something similar with
>>>>> vocoder > voices!
>>>>> > Tyler Z
>>>>> > On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 23:29:26 -0500, Jake McMahan wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Hey people:
>>>>> >> Check out this funny little piece that I wrote to pick on my
>>>>> cousin >> shaneâEUR^(TM)s
>>>>> >> inteligence levil.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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