[DECtalk] SubjectLines - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?

Wed Feb 1 19:11:08 EST 2012

Thank you. Much apreciated!

Doris

At 06:41 PM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Thanks for the reminder, I sort of forgot about doing that. I will 
>do it in future.
>It'd be better to post these things as little reminders that only 
>take a few seconds to read, rather than have a repetitive paragraph 
>about it, quote someone as if they didn't know what you were talking 
>about, and ask why it's so difficult. I originally intended it to 
>just be a little side path of discussion. It didn't sound that way, 
>but I just wanted to see where it would go. Now that it's gone far 
>past the original topic, I changed it.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:31 AM
>Subject: [DECtalk] SubjectLines - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>
>
>>If you introduce a new subject, why is it so difficult to either 
>>start a new message thread or at least change the subject line to 
>>reflect the question asked?
>>
>> From what I have read on this list, there is a lot of expertise on 
>> here and I am sure you guys are pros in communicating. could you 
>> please use subject lines that refer to what is actually being 
>> discussed on here? I get a lot of messages from all kinds of lists 
>> I am on and choose what messages to read by the subject lines. I 
>> do not open messages that sound too technical in nature on here, 
>> for example, but would have been intersted in the discussion on 
>> different dectalk versions or what is available when and where.
>>
>>For the question below, something like
>>
>>"British DECTalk Voice"?
>>
>>should be an easy enough subject to formulate
>>
>>Thanks much.
>>
>>Doris
>>
>>  h
>>
>>At 10:15 AM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Well, the sonic thing wasn't a real big thing at least for me, nor 
>>>anyone else I knew that used it. It sounded strange, and I never 
>>>did like dectalk above rates of400 or so.
>>>Going off topic here, I wonder if a decent British dectalk was ever made?
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <pitermach at gmail.com>
>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:47 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>
>>>
>>>>Actually yeah. The driver was written by Tyler and I sort of 
>>>>helped him out with it. The first version only did Paul and had 
>>>>sonic to speed the rate up even more. I asked him to add voices, 
>>>>and that's the newer version where sonic had to be removed 
>>>>because it was crashing things apparently.
>>>>
>>>>On 2012-02-01 13:52, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>I was under the impression that both Dectalks were the same 
>>>>>engine, just different versions of the driver, and the newer one 
>>>>>supported voices but the older one didn't?
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <pitermach at gmail.com>
>>>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:43 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>About the issue with the second dectalk, what happens is almost 
>>>>>>every parameter is actually changed, except the pitch and 
>>>>>>inflection, so after you change voices you just need to 
>>>>>>manually raise the pitch or what ever to set it straight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 2012-02-01 03:18, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>>>>Doris,
>>>>>>>I discovered the other day that two Dectalks for NVDA exist. I 
>>>>>>>was able to
>>>>>>>try both out after obtaining them and reinstalling NVDA. Both 
>>>>>>>NVDA-specific
>>>>>>>Dectalks have issues. In the first one, only Paul is available 
>>>>>>>as a voice.
>>>>>>>To me, that version of Dectalk for NVDA sounds similar to 4.4, 
>>>>>>>though I have
>>>>>>>no idea what DT version it is based on. The second Dectalk for 
>>>>>>>NVDA lists
>>>>>>>all 9 voices, but apparently is based on another version of 
>>>>>>>Dectalk. Some
>>>>>>>of those voices sound, um, different. Example: Kipp sounds 
>>>>>>>like he's going
>>>>>>>through puberty or something similar. If anyone wants to 
>>>>>>>experiment with/use
>>>>>>>Dectalk for NVDA, write me off-list. As far as  I know, 
>>>>>>>Dectalk for NVDA is
>>>>>>>not officially supported by the NVDA developers and I don't 
>>>>>>>know who created
>>>>>>>Dectalks for NVDA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regarding Dectalk for Jaws, there is Dectalk Access32. Problem: Freedom
>>>>>>>Scientific broke Dectalk Access32 functionality in an earlier version of
>>>>>>>Jaws. Since a Jaws-specific version of Dectalk Access32 is no 
>>>>>>>longer sold or
>>>>>>>supported by FS, I sort of understand why  Freedom Scientific 
>>>>>>>won't fix the
>>>>>>>problem. Another member of this list found a workaround to make Dectalk
>>>>>>>Access32 work with Jaws which involves uninstalling Eloquence.
>>>>>>>Blake
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>[mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris
>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:56 PM
>>>>>>>To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>Subject: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>with all the discussion of singing dectalks, it was a couple of times
>>>>>>>mentioned that dectalk version 4.4 is in the public domain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is there a version of this or can one be made available that works with
>>>>>>>screenreaders?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I enjoy the dectalk songs I have heard and am amazed at the 
>>>>>>>creativity and
>>>>>>>finesse and perfection that goes into those songs but this is 
>>>>>>>nothing I have
>>>>>>>any interst in persuing myself .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I like dectalk for its clear speech and low footprint on older 
>>>>>>>systems and I
>>>>>>>would love to have a working version to use with my 
>>>>>>>screenreaders, i.e. jaws
>>>>>>>and nvda. For nvda especialy it would be nice to have a free dectalk
>>>>>>>version. nvda comes with espeak, which is free and open 
>>>>>>>source. espeak is
>>>>>>>certainly usable and I like its responsibeness but dectalk has 
>>>>>>>much clearer
>>>>>>>speech and would be much easier to understand for those used 
>>>>>>>to more human
>>>>>>>sounding synths.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>With all the time and energy devoted to making dectalk sing and talking
>>>>>>>about this, if there is a public domain version of dectalk 
>>>>>>>available, could
>>>>>>>some of the time and energy be devoted to giving us a free 
>>>>>>>dectalk to just
>>>>>>>use with screenreaders or a free sapi version?
>>>>>>>I do not know what would go into this but I'd like to see 
>>>>>>>something that is
>>>>>>>usable for the broader masses and especialy for nvda users.
>>>>>>>nvda is coming of age and a decent free synth with it would be such a
>>>>>>>blessing!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Doris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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