[DECtalk] SubjectLines - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
Raymond Grote
musicalman1 at comcast.net
Wed Feb 1 18:41:13 EST 2012
Hi,
Thanks for the reminder, I sort of forgot about doing that. I will do it in
future.
It'd be better to post these things as little reminders that only take a few
seconds to read, rather than have a repetitive paragraph about it, quote
someone as if they didn't know what you were talking about, and ask why it's
so difficult. I originally intended it to just be a little side path of
discussion. It didn't sound that way, but I just wanted to see where it
would go. Now that it's gone far past the original topic, I changed it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doris and Chris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:31 AM
Subject: [DECtalk] SubjectLines - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
> If you introduce a new subject, why is it so difficult to either start a
> new message thread or at least change the subject line to reflect the
> question asked?
>
> From what I have read on this list, there is a lot of expertise on here
> and I am sure you guys are pros in communicating. could you please use
> subject lines that refer to what is actually being discussed on here? I
> get a lot of messages from all kinds of lists I am on and choose what
> messages to read by the subject lines. I do not open messages that sound
> too technical in nature on here, for example, but would have been
> intersted in the discussion on different dectalk versions or what is
> available when and where.
>
> For the question below, something like
>
> "British DECTalk Voice"?
>
> should be an easy enough subject to formulate
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Doris
>
> h
>
> At 10:15 AM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>>Well, the sonic thing wasn't a real big thing at least for me, nor anyone
>>else I knew that used it. It sounded strange, and I never did like dectalk
>>above rates of400 or so.
>>Going off topic here, I wonder if a decent British dectalk was ever made?
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <pitermach at gmail.com>
>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:47 AM
>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>
>>
>>>Actually yeah. The driver was written by Tyler and I sort of helped him
>>>out with it. The first version only did Paul and had sonic to speed the
>>>rate up even more. I asked him to add voices, and that's the newer
>>>version where sonic had to be removed because it was crashing things
>>>apparently.
>>>
>>>On 2012-02-01 13:52, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>Hi,
>>>>I was under the impression that both Dectalks were the same engine, just
>>>>different versions of the driver, and the newer one supported voices but
>>>>the older one didn't?
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <pitermach at gmail.com>
>>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:43 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>About the issue with the second dectalk, what happens is almost every
>>>>>parameter is actually changed, except the pitch and inflection, so
>>>>>after you change voices you just need to manually raise the pitch or
>>>>>what ever to set it straight.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 2012-02-01 03:18, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>>>Doris,
>>>>>>I discovered the other day that two Dectalks for NVDA exist. I was
>>>>>>able to
>>>>>>try both out after obtaining them and reinstalling NVDA. Both
>>>>>>NVDA-specific
>>>>>>Dectalks have issues. In the first one, only Paul is available as a
>>>>>>voice.
>>>>>>To me, that version of Dectalk for NVDA sounds similar to 4.4, though
>>>>>>I have
>>>>>>no idea what DT version it is based on. The second Dectalk for NVDA
>>>>>>lists
>>>>>>all 9 voices, but apparently is based on another version of Dectalk.
>>>>>>Some
>>>>>>of those voices sound, um, different. Example: Kipp sounds like he's
>>>>>>going
>>>>>>through puberty or something similar. If anyone wants to experiment
>>>>>>with/use
>>>>>>Dectalk for NVDA, write me off-list. As far as I know, Dectalk for
>>>>>>NVDA is
>>>>>>not officially supported by the NVDA developers and I don't know who
>>>>>>created
>>>>>>Dectalks for NVDA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regarding Dectalk for Jaws, there is Dectalk Access32. Problem:
>>>>>>Freedom
>>>>>>Scientific broke Dectalk Access32 functionality in an earlier version
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>Jaws. Since a Jaws-specific version of Dectalk Access32 is no longer
>>>>>>sold or
>>>>>>supported by FS, I sort of understand why Freedom Scientific won't
>>>>>>fix the
>>>>>>problem. Another member of this list found a workaround to make
>>>>>>Dectalk
>>>>>>Access32 work with Jaws which involves uninstalling Eloquence.
>>>>>>Blake
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>[mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Doris and
>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:56 PM
>>>>>>To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>Subject: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>with all the discussion of singing dectalks, it was a couple of times
>>>>>>mentioned that dectalk version 4.4 is in the public domain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there a version of this or can one be made available that works
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>screenreaders?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I enjoy the dectalk songs I have heard and am amazed at the creativity
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>finesse and perfection that goes into those songs but this is nothing
>>>>>>I have
>>>>>>any interst in persuing myself .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I like dectalk for its clear speech and low footprint on older systems
>>>>>>and I
>>>>>>would love to have a working version to use with my screenreaders,
>>>>>>i.e. jaws
>>>>>>and nvda. For nvda especialy it would be nice to have a free dectalk
>>>>>>version. nvda comes with espeak, which is free and open source. espeak
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>certainly usable and I like its responsibeness but dectalk has much
>>>>>>clearer
>>>>>>speech and would be much easier to understand for those used to more
>>>>>>human
>>>>>>sounding synths.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>With all the time and energy devoted to making dectalk sing and
>>>>>>talking
>>>>>>about this, if there is a public domain version of dectalk available,
>>>>>>could
>>>>>>some of the time and energy be devoted to giving us a free dectalk to
>>>>>>just
>>>>>>use with screenreaders or a free sapi version?
>>>>>>I do not know what would go into this but I'd like to see something
>>>>>>that is
>>>>>>usable for the broader masses and especialy for nvda users.
>>>>>>nvda is coming of age and a decent free synth with it would be such a
>>>>>>blessing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Doris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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