[DECtalk] Dectalk 4.4 speak window
Blake Roberts
beroberts at hughes.net
Tue May 10 16:06:59 EDT 2011
Alex,
I tried your idea of setting DT 4.4 speak window to compatibility mode
Windows 98. That's great you got it to work on your system. EN files still
won't open in the 4.4 speak window on my computer. Launching EN files used
to open Windows Media Center even thoughI set the association. Now,
launching EN files opens an Internet Explorer download file dialog. For me,
getting Windows 7 and DT 4.4 cooperating is frustrating.
This is why I think creating an installer to set up the file association
would be helpful. Either that, or as was mentioned before, create a speak
window from scratch.
To answer Johnny's question, DT 4.3 works on Windows 7. However, this
version has always had the limitaiton of only opening files called
demo.txt.Blake
Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
[mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Alex H.
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:00 PM
To: DECtalk Discussions
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
Hi,
I've gotten DT 4.4 to work on Windows 7. Basically it just needs to be run
in compatibility mode for Win 98. Just go to properties for the speak.exe
program and go to compatibility and tick 'run this program in compatibility
mode for:' and then choose Windows 98. Worked for me.
I don't know why the file association isn't working with DT 4.4 but it could
be a number of things.
As for why we would want/need a SAPI version of DECTalk from Enable?
There's a version of SAPI DT floating around on the list that sounds like
4.6.4 or something, and it is certainly welcomed among the DT users, but it
has a bit of a lag and isn't classic DECTalk (e.g., 4.3 or 4.2cd, not 4.6x
as they don't sound like classic DECTAlk such as found in the DT Express
etc). Basically, we want an old version of DECTalk in a SAPI package that is
responsive. That would be a dream come true for most of us, and probably
bring back some memories of using DECTalk classic back in the days of the
Express and PCI.
Basically, it would be honoring Dennis Klatt's work and giving the DECTalk
users of the world reason for celebration.
A possible issue I see looming in the future though is, how to get this
vintage dated DECTalk version running on the latest systems, let alone get
the code itself? Fonix hasn't really been any help, and they'll do anything
for a buck, and it's not fair to Enable to throw money in a hole, so to
speak. This would have to be carefully planned.
Another thing, if this old version of DECTalk were to become a SAPI/new
Speak Window, the testers of the software should be given respect this time
around. If something's wrong, let's not smother it this time.
Finally, I hope something happens with this, but finding this other SAPI
version of DT was pretty cool. It'll certainly work for the time being.
Alex
On 5/9/11, johnnybrl at gmail.com <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi, will dectalk 4.3 still run on windows 7?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dectalk at aol.com
> To: dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 4:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
>
>
> it needs the commands. Let me emplane why. Most of you on this
> list just make Dectalk sing for fun. People who can't talk, have no
> other way of singing, Dectalk is the only way they have to sing. I'm
> one of them, but only one of many. Today I'm trying to finish "THE
> HALLELUJAH CHORUS" in 4 part harmony so 4 people with Dectalk can all
> sing together. I wanted more parts but I can't find a version of sheet
music that has more than 4 parts.
>
> In any event, there is a serious problem coming up. I have no idea
> why, but the 4.40 speak window will not install in the latest update
> of Windows 7, the en files will not associate with the speak window.
> I now have 3 known computers that the speak window will not run on.
>
> Blake and I have posted about this several times but it keeps
> getting ignored. Guys, if we don't solve this problem, and if any of
> you ever switch computers, you might not be able to run Dectalk.
>
>
> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>
> In a message dated 5/8/2011 11:58:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
> thanks both of you for this project. maybe when you guys get the
> code compiled wright, or the wright code at all, you can make a sapi
> version of dectalk that is better than the stuff already put out
> there. maybe a sapi dectalk with not just voices but commands and
everything.
>
> On May 8, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>
> > Ed,
> > Thanks for the clarification and your dedication to, like
> Corine, not give
> > up on Dectalk.
> > Blake
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
> > [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
> ebruckert Bruckert
> > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:42 PM
> > To: DECtalk Discussions
> > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
> >
> > I'm sorry I have to set the record straight. I am the one that
> supplied
> > Kareem with code and there was confusion because they hadn't
> been compiled
> > in a while and I knew they needed fixing and I don't think that
> was truly
> > understood and no I didn't get a single penny. Neither am I
> giving up I need
> > a decent DECtalk as well this went down the rat hole for various
> reasons and
> > I'm not giving up I want one I don't want to play a blame game
> however. But
> > nobody intentionally did anything wrong period.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Michael Hansen
> <amtk62 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > So basicly, if I understand this right, someone in essence took
> > advantage of Corine's lack of DECtalk knowledge and sold her a
code
> > to
> > Fonix Talk--or something very nearly like it--and said it was
good?
> > How aweful.
> >
> > It's all starting to make sense now. Corine, I for one am very
> > sorry
> > for contributing to your company's public humiliation on this
> > mailing
> > list. It appears Fonix is the one to blame, and if they really
did
> > screw you guys over (I know you can never say that publicly) then
> > that
> > is a real shame. Thank you for trying, and thank you for
> > withholding
> > this release.
> >
> > Best,
> > Michael Hansen
> >
> >
> > On 5/8/11, Dectalk at aol.com <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
> > > Yes but guys, can we be sensitive here for Corine? She cares
so
> > much that
> > > she put a lot of money into this. She was sold a bad code and
> > has no way
> > > to get a refund. This is both happy and sad news. We should
all
> > deeply
> > > thank her for trying.
> > >
> > >
> > > SNOOPI BOTTEN
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 5/8/2011 11:37:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > beroberts at hughes.net writes:
> > >
> > > Alex did a fantastic job creating the Dectalk vs. FonixTalk
file
> > that
> > > Jayson
> > > shared. Excellent job on production, Alex.
> > > I agree with Jayson about Dectalk 86 sounding more like
FonixTalk
> > than
> > > Dectalk. It is certainly good news that Enable wil not be
> > marketing
> > > Dectalk
> > > 86.
> > > Blake
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
> > > [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Jayson
> > Smith
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 11:05 AM
> > > To: DECtalk Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
> > >
> > > I have to sort of agree with this, although Corine has stated
> > that the
> > > so-nicknamed DECtalk 86 doesn't use FonixTalk. To hear a sample
of
> > the real
> > > FonixTalk, listen to the following file.
> > > http://www.q-audio.net/d/18754
> > > I think DECtalk 86 sounds more like FonixTalk than it does any
> > version of
> > > DECtalk including 4.64 or 5.0.
> > > Jayson
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
> > > To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:26 PM
> > > Subject: [DECtalk] something i heard
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hey guys i let someone hear a demo of the speak window for the
> > sapi
> > >> dectalk that enable is selling and that person said that this
is
> > based
> > > on
> > >> fonix talk. don't know if anyone came up with that yet.
> > >>
> > >>
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