[DECtalk] something i heard

Alex H. linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Mon May 9 16:47:19 EDT 2011


Agreed. I'd pay for an older classic SAPI version anyday that was
classic like 4.3 or 4.4. Basically anything before 4.6.

Alex

On 5/9/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Yes. A little more cooperation and communication from everyone would really
> help I think. But just because we have something now doesn't mean you guys
> should be defeated. This Sapi thing is just a little appetizer with its fair
> share of bugs as well. You guys still have a mission to accomplish.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've gotten DT 4.4 to work on Windows 7. Basically it just needs to be
>> run in compatibility mode for Win 98. Just go to properties for the
>> speak.exe program and go to compatibility and tick 'run this program
>> in compatibility mode for:' and then choose Windows 98. Worked for me.
>> I don't know why the file association isn't working with DT 4.4 but it
>> could be a number of things.
>>
>> As for why we would want/need a SAPI version of DECTalk from Enable?
>> There's a version of SAPI DT floating around on the list that sounds
>> like 4.6.4 or something, and it is certainly welcomed among the DT
>> users, but it has a bit of a lag and isn't classic DECTalk (e.g., 4.3
>> or 4.2cd, not 4.6x as they don't sound like classic DECTAlk such as
>> found in the DT Express etc). Basically, we want an old version of
>> DECTalk in a SAPI package that is responsive. That would be a dream
>> come true for most of us, and probably bring back some memories of
>> using DECTalk classic back in the days of the Express and PCI.
>> Basically, it would be honoring Dennis Klatt's work and giving the
>> DECTalk users of the world reason for celebration.
>>
>> A possible issue I see looming in the future though is, how to get
>> this vintage dated DECTalk version running on the latest systems, let
>> alone get the code itself? Fonix hasn't really been any help, and
>> they'll do anything for a buck, and it's not fair to Enable to throw
>> money in a hole, so to speak. This would have to be carefully planned.
>> Another thing, if this old version of DECTalk were to become a
>> SAPI/new Speak Window, the testers of the software should be given
>> respect this time around. If something's wrong, let's not smother it
>> this time.
>>
>> Finally, I hope something happens with this, but finding this other
>> SAPI version of DT was pretty cool. It'll certainly work for the time
>> being.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On 5/9/11, johnnybrl at gmail.com <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hi, will dectalk 4.3 still run on windows 7?
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Dectalk at aol.com
>>>   To: dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>   Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 4:34 AM
>>>   Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
>>>
>>>
>>>   it needs the commands.  Let me emplane why.  Most of you on this list
>>> just
>>> make Dectalk sing for fun.  People who can't talk, have no other way of
>>> singing, Dectalk is the only way they have to sing.  I'm one of them, but
>>> only one of many.  Today I'm trying to finish "THE HALLELUJAH CHORUS" in
>>> 4
>>> part harmony so 4 people with Dectalk can all sing together.  I wanted
>>> more
>>> parts but I can't find a version of sheet music that has more than 4
>>> parts.
>>>
>>>   In any event, there is a serious problem coming up.  I have no idea
>>> why,
>>> but the 4.40 speak window will not install in the latest update of
>>> Windows
>>> 7, the en files will not associate with the speak window.  I now have 3
>>> known computers that the speak window will not run on.
>>>
>>>   Blake and I have posted about this several times but it keeps getting
>>> ignored.  Guys, if we don't solve this problem, and if any of you ever
>>> switch computers, you might not be able to run Dectalk.
>>>
>>>
>>>   SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>
>>>   In a message dated 5/8/2011 11:58:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>>     thanks both of you for this project. maybe when you guys get the code
>>> compiled wright, or the wright code at all, you can make a sapi version
>>> of
>>> dectalk that is better than the stuff already put out there. maybe a sapi
>>> dectalk with not just voices but commands and everything.
>>>
>>>     On May 8, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>
>>>     > Ed,
>>>     > Thanks for the clarification and your dedication to, like Corine,
>>> not
>>> give
>>>     > up on Dectalk.
>>>     > Blake
>>>     >
>>>     > -----Original Message-----
>>>     > From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>     > [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of ebruckert
>>> Bruckert
>>>     > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:42 PM
>>>     > To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>     > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
>>>     >
>>>     > I'm sorry I have to set the record straight. I am the one that
>>> supplied
>>>     > Kareem with code and there was confusion because they hadn't been
>>> compiled
>>>     > in a while and I knew they needed fixing and I don't think that was
>>> truly
>>>     > understood and no I didn't get a single penny. Neither am I giving
>>> up
>>> I need
>>>     > a decent DECtalk as well this went down the rat hole for various
>>> reasons and
>>>     > I'm not giving up I want one I don't want to play a blame game
>>> however. But
>>>     > nobody intentionally did anything wrong period.
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Michael Hansen <amtk62 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >   So basicly, if I understand this right, someone in essence took
>>>     >   advantage of Corine's lack of DECtalk knowledge and sold her a
>>> code
>>>     > to
>>>     >   Fonix Talk--or something very nearly like it--and said it was
>>> good?
>>>     >   How aweful.
>>>     >
>>>     >   It's all starting to make sense now.  Corine, I for one am very
>>>     > sorry
>>>     >   for contributing to your company's public humiliation on this
>>>     > mailing
>>>     >   list.  It appears Fonix is the one to blame, and if they really
>>> did
>>>     >   screw you guys over (I know you can never say that publicly) then
>>>     > that
>>>     >   is a real shame.  Thank you for trying, and thank you for
>>>     > withholding
>>>     >   this release.
>>>     >
>>>     >   Best,
>>>     >   Michael Hansen
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >   On 5/8/11, Dectalk at aol.com <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
>>>     >   > Yes but guys, can we be sensitive here for  Corine?  She cares
>>> so
>>>     > much that
>>>     >   > she put a lot of money into this.  She  was sold a bad code and
>>>     > has no way
>>>     >   > to get a refund.  This is both happy and  sad news.  We should
>>> all
>>>     > deeply
>>>     >   > thank her for trying.
>>>     >   >
>>>     >   >
>>>     >   > SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>     >   >
>>>     >   >
>>>     >   > In a message dated 5/8/2011 11:37:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight
>>> Time,
>>>     >   > beroberts at hughes.net writes:
>>>     >   >
>>>     >   > Alex did  a fantastic job creating the Dectalk vs. FonixTalk
>>> file
>>>     > that
>>>     >   > Jayson
>>>     >   > shared.  Excellent job on production, Alex.
>>>     >   > I agree with Jayson about Dectalk 86  sounding more like
>>> FonixTalk
>>>     > than
>>>     >   > Dectalk.  It is certainly good news  that Enable wil not be
>>>     > marketing
>>>     >   > Dectalk
>>>     >   > 86.
>>>     >   > Blake
>>>     >   > -----Original  Message-----
>>>     >   > From:  dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>     >   > [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com]  On Behalf Of Jayson
>>>     > Smith
>>>     >   > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 11:05 AM
>>>     >   > To:  DECtalk Discussions
>>>     >   > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
>>>     >   >
>>>     >   > I have  to sort of agree with this, although Corine has stated
>>>     > that  the
>>>     >   > so-nicknamed DECtalk 86 doesn't use FonixTalk. To hear a sample
>>>
>>> of
>>>     > the  real
>>>     >   > FonixTalk, listen to the following  file.
>>>     >   > http://www.q-audio.net/d/18754
>>>     >   > I think DECtalk 86 sounds more like  FonixTalk than it does any
>>>     > version of
>>>     >   > DECtalk including 4.64 or  5.0.
>>>     >   > Jayson
>>>     >   >
>>>     >   > ----- Original Message -----
>>>     >   > From: "Brandon Misch"  <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
>>>     >   > To: "DECtalk Discussions"  <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>     >   > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:26  PM
>>>     >   > Subject: [DECtalk] something i heard
>>>     >   >
>>>     >   >
>>>     >   >> Hey guys i let  someone hear a demo of the speak window for
>>> the
>>>     > sapi
>>>     >   >> dectalk that  enable is selling and that person said that this
>>>
>>> is
>>>     > based
>>>     >   > on
>>>     >   >> fonix  talk. don't know if anyone came up with that yet.
>>>     >   >>
>>>     >   >>
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