[DECtalk] Dectalk 4.4 speak window
Alex H.
linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Tue May 10 16:30:06 EDT 2011
Hi Blake,
I don't use file associations for DT but I think the best way to work
around this would be to re-write speak from scratch like you
suggested. After all, this is 1997 software we're talking about.
Alex
On 5/10/11, Blake Roberts <beroberts at hughes.net> wrote:
> Alex,
> I tried your idea of setting DT 4.4 speak window to compatibility mode
> Windows 98. That's great you got it to work on your system. EN files still
> won't open in the 4.4 speak window on my computer. Launching EN files used
> to open Windows Media Center even thoughI set the association. Now,
> launching EN files opens an Internet Explorer download file dialog. For me,
> getting Windows 7 and DT 4.4 cooperating is frustrating.
>
> This is why I think creating an installer to set up the file association
> would be helpful. Either that, or as was mentioned before, create a speak
> window from scratch.
>
> To answer Johnny's question, DT 4.3 works on Windows 7. However, this
> version has always had the limitaiton of only opening files called
> demo.txt.Blake
> Blake
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Alex H.
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:00 PM
> To: DECtalk Discussions
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
>
> Hi,
>
> I've gotten DT 4.4 to work on Windows 7. Basically it just needs to be run
> in compatibility mode for Win 98. Just go to properties for the speak.exe
> program and go to compatibility and tick 'run this program in compatibility
> mode for:' and then choose Windows 98. Worked for me.
> I don't know why the file association isn't working with DT 4.4 but it could
> be a number of things.
>
> As for why we would want/need a SAPI version of DECTalk from Enable?
> There's a version of SAPI DT floating around on the list that sounds like
> 4.6.4 or something, and it is certainly welcomed among the DT users, but it
> has a bit of a lag and isn't classic DECTalk (e.g., 4.3 or 4.2cd, not 4.6x
> as they don't sound like classic DECTAlk such as found in the DT Express
> etc). Basically, we want an old version of DECTalk in a SAPI package that is
> responsive. That would be a dream come true for most of us, and probably
> bring back some memories of using DECTalk classic back in the days of the
> Express and PCI.
> Basically, it would be honoring Dennis Klatt's work and giving the DECTalk
> users of the world reason for celebration.
>
> A possible issue I see looming in the future though is, how to get this
> vintage dated DECTalk version running on the latest systems, let alone get
> the code itself? Fonix hasn't really been any help, and they'll do anything
> for a buck, and it's not fair to Enable to throw money in a hole, so to
> speak. This would have to be carefully planned.
> Another thing, if this old version of DECTalk were to become a SAPI/new
> Speak Window, the testers of the software should be given respect this time
> around. If something's wrong, let's not smother it this time.
>
> Finally, I hope something happens with this, but finding this other SAPI
> version of DT was pretty cool. It'll certainly work for the time being.
>
> Alex
>
> On 5/9/11, johnnybrl at gmail.com <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi, will dectalk 4.3 still run on windows 7?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dectalk at aol.com
>> To: dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 4:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
>>
>>
>> it needs the commands. Let me emplane why. Most of you on this
>> list just make Dectalk sing for fun. People who can't talk, have no
>> other way of singing, Dectalk is the only way they have to sing. I'm
>> one of them, but only one of many. Today I'm trying to finish "THE
>> HALLELUJAH CHORUS" in 4 part harmony so 4 people with Dectalk can all
>> sing together. I wanted more parts but I can't find a version of sheet
> music that has more than 4 parts.
>>
>> In any event, there is a serious problem coming up. I have no idea
>> why, but the 4.40 speak window will not install in the latest update
>> of Windows 7, the en files will not associate with the speak window.
>> I now have 3 known computers that the speak window will not run on.
>>
>> Blake and I have posted about this several times but it keeps
>> getting ignored. Guys, if we don't solve this problem, and if any of
>> you ever switch computers, you might not be able to run Dectalk.
>>
>>
>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>
>> In a message dated 5/8/2011 11:58:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>> thanks both of you for this project. maybe when you guys get the
>> code compiled wright, or the wright code at all, you can make a sapi
>> version of dectalk that is better than the stuff already put out
>> there. maybe a sapi dectalk with not just voices but commands and
> everything.
>>
>> On May 8, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>
>> > Ed,
>> > Thanks for the clarification and your dedication to, like
>> Corine, not give
>> > up on Dectalk.
>> > Blake
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>> > [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>> ebruckert Bruckert
>> > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:42 PM
>> > To: DECtalk Discussions
>> > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
>> >
>> > I'm sorry I have to set the record straight. I am the one that
>> supplied
>> > Kareem with code and there was confusion because they hadn't
>> been compiled
>> > in a while and I knew they needed fixing and I don't think that
>> was truly
>> > understood and no I didn't get a single penny. Neither am I
>> giving up I need
>> > a decent DECtalk as well this went down the rat hole for various
>> reasons and
>> > I'm not giving up I want one I don't want to play a blame game
>> however. But
>> > nobody intentionally did anything wrong period.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Michael Hansen
>> <amtk62 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > So basicly, if I understand this right, someone in essence took
>> > advantage of Corine's lack of DECtalk knowledge and sold her a
> code
>> > to
>> > Fonix Talk--or something very nearly like it--and said it was
> good?
>> > How aweful.
>> >
>> > It's all starting to make sense now. Corine, I for one am very
>> > sorry
>> > for contributing to your company's public humiliation on this
>> > mailing
>> > list. It appears Fonix is the one to blame, and if they really
> did
>> > screw you guys over (I know you can never say that publicly) then
>> > that
>> > is a real shame. Thank you for trying, and thank you for
>> > withholding
>> > this release.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Michael Hansen
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/8/11, Dectalk at aol.com <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
>> > > Yes but guys, can we be sensitive here for Corine? She cares
> so
>> > much that
>> > > she put a lot of money into this. She was sold a bad code and
>> > has no way
>> > > to get a refund. This is both happy and sad news. We should
> all
>> > deeply
>> > > thank her for trying.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > SNOOPI BOTTEN
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > In a message dated 5/8/2011 11:37:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> > > beroberts at hughes.net writes:
>> > >
>> > > Alex did a fantastic job creating the Dectalk vs. FonixTalk
> file
>> > that
>> > > Jayson
>> > > shared. Excellent job on production, Alex.
>> > > I agree with Jayson about Dectalk 86 sounding more like
> FonixTalk
>> > than
>> > > Dectalk. It is certainly good news that Enable wil not be
>> > marketing
>> > > Dectalk
>> > > 86.
>> > > Blake
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>> > > [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Jayson
>> > Smith
>> > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 11:05 AM
>> > > To: DECtalk Discussions
>> > > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] something i heard
>> > >
>> > > I have to sort of agree with this, although Corine has stated
>> > that the
>> > > so-nicknamed DECtalk 86 doesn't use FonixTalk. To hear a sample
> of
>> > the real
>> > > FonixTalk, listen to the following file.
>> > > http://www.q-audio.net/d/18754
>> > > I think DECtalk 86 sounds more like FonixTalk than it does any
>> > version of
>> > > DECtalk including 4.64 or 5.0.
>> > > Jayson
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
>> > > To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> > > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:26 PM
>> > > Subject: [DECtalk] something i heard
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Hey guys i let someone hear a demo of the speak window for the
>> > sapi
>> > >> dectalk that enable is selling and that person said that this
> is
>> > based
>> > > on
>> > >> fonix talk. don't know if anyone came up with that yet.
>> > >>
>> > >>
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