Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated

Shaun Everiss shaun.e at xtra.co.nz
Wed Aug 17 20:40:40 EDT 2005


hi jayson.
each directory could have a torent.
That way you wouldn't have problems with everything being got or not.
This would take the drain off the first timers.
For those who have the rest of the files and just want indevidual stuff they can.
At 11:48 p.m. 17/08/2005, you wrote:
>Hello,
>To find the entire DECtalk archive, go to the following url.
>http://jaybird.no-ip.info/dectalk
>Look in the "Red Dwarf" directory for, well, Red Dwarf.
>I have a few more thoughts on the archive situation.  Frankly, I don't see
>the archive becoming much of a bandwidth drain, because frankly very few
>people are interested in this stuff.  If I do take over the archive, and if
>the bandwidth drain does turn out to be a problem, I can find a site like
>planetmirror.com and get them to mirror the archive, then point visitors to
>the mirror instead of my own site.  Maybe set up a username and password so
>people who have a good reason to access the archive on my machine can do so.
>Also, as suggested earlier today, I can create a Bit Torrent of the archive,
>as it exists at any point in time.  A torrent is completely static, and can
>not be updated, however.  Also, with a torrent, downloaders can't pick which
>files they wish to receive, they will get the entire archive.  With a
>torrent, you get all or nothing.
>Jayson.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rich Cavallaro" <richcav at verizon.net>
>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at jaybird.no-ip.info>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:25 AM
>Subject: Re: Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated
>
>
>> Jayson what is the url for your site to get the read dwarf files?>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Shaun Everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at jaybird.no-ip.info>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated
>>
>>
>> > thanks jayzon.
>> > It looks like its perminantly down.
>> > But look don't blame onj.
>> > I actually expected the thing  to die ages ago.
>> > Honestly, if you were given something to eat that you didn't like or
>that
>> well you just hated?
>> > Would eat it? I rest my case.
>> > At 08:26 p.m. 17/08/2005, you wrote:
>> > >Hi,
>> > >Couldn't have said it better myself.  I just now updated my own mirror,
>> so
>> > >if the site goes down my site is up to date.  Red Dwarf up to I think
>5-5
>> is
>> > >available.
>> > >Jayson.
>> > >
>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >From: "Tony Baechler" <tony at baechler.net>
>> > >To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at jaybird.no-ip.info>
>> > >Cc: <onj at andrelouis.com>
>> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:07 AM
>> > >Subject: Re: Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Hello Andre, Nick, list, and whoever else.  I'm not going to respond
>to
>> > >> most of this.  There is no point.  I'm not going to be in a bickering
>> > >> contest.  I'll just drop the list if it comes to that.
>> > >>
>> > >> Now then.  Umm, actually I have never downloaded a thing from you
>Andre
>> > >> except your web pages.  Check your logs from November 2004 if you
>don't
>> > >> believe me.  Second, you're right.  I'm not going to donate.  I don't
>> need
>> > >> your complaining for my dollars.  You've got to be kidding.  Third, I
>> > >> basically don't care now what happens to the archive because of the
>> > >> constant complaining from Andre.  If it's that much of a problem,
>just
>> > >drop
>> > >> it.  I've had to let archive sites go before because of bandwidth, so
>I
>> do
>> > >> understand.
>> > >>
>> > >> I personally would be willing to take over the archive except the Red
>> > >Dwarf
>> > >> files if it comes to that.  I have enough bandwidth that I'm not
>really
>> > >> worried about people downloading everything.  Heck, I have about 1gb
>or
>> > >> more per day in download traffic already.  The only condition is that
>> > >there
>> > >> will be an Apache module in place to restrict bandwidth usage.  This
>is
>> > >> unfortunately necessary and would result in a slower download speed
>for
>> > >> all, but since I have been running servers off and on for quite a few
>> > >years
>> > >> now I do understand the bandwidth issues involved and there is no way
>> > >> around it.  Also some of the content with prophanity will be removed,
>> but
>> > >> I'm not sure what or when.
>> > >>
>> > >> Andre mentioned that I don't know how to run a server.  Please look
>at
>> > >> http://investigative.net/.  I set up that server and I run it.  I am
>> > >> running Debian Sarge, Apache 1.3.33 and Qmail.  So yes, I think I
>know
>> > >> something about running servers.  I am not worried in the least about
>> your
>> > >> threats to take away the archive.  I don't wish to run it and I don't
>> want
>> > >> to be the main site for it, but I would be willing to work with
>Jayson
>> to
>> > >> figure out something.
>> > >>
>> > >> I will leave you all with one other question.  Is it worth
>maintaining
>> the
>> > >> archive?  If I host or mirror it, is there going to be any new
>content?
>> > >Is
>> > >> there any point?   I personally think not to all the above, which is
>> why
>> > >> there is no point in bickering with Andre.  The nice thing about
>> someone
>> > >> else being the owner such as Jayson is that it would eliminate the
>> > >> unreasonableness going on.  If he wants to look at planetmirror.com,
>he
>> > >> would have the option since he would be the new owner, maintainer, or
>> > >> whatever you want to call it.  If none of that happens, oh well.  I
>> have a
>> > >> mirror of everything as of last Oct 31 and I would probably
>eventually
>> put
>> > >> it up for people to download.  Since domains are cheap, I might get
>> > >> dectalk.org or dec-talk.org if it's available.  I don't know.
>> > >>
>> > >> Oh, by the way Andre, it isn't just blind people that want something
>> for
>> > >> nothing.  It's almost every Internet user.  You probably don't donate
>> to
>> > >> every software developer or site you use regularly either.  That's
>the
>> > >> freedom of the Internet.
>> > >>
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