Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated

Wed Aug 17 07:48:23 EDT 2005

Hello,
To find the entire DECtalk archive, go to the following url.
http://jaybird.no-ip.info/dectalk
Look in the "Red Dwarf" directory for, well, Red Dwarf.
I have a few more thoughts on the archive situation.  Frankly, I don't see
the archive becoming much of a bandwidth drain, because frankly very few
people are interested in this stuff.  If I do take over the archive, and if
the bandwidth drain does turn out to be a problem, I can find a site like
planetmirror.com and get them to mirror the archive, then point visitors to
the mirror instead of my own site.  Maybe set up a username and password so
people who have a good reason to access the archive on my machine can do so.
Also, as suggested earlier today, I can create a Bit Torrent of the archive,
as it exists at any point in time.  A torrent is completely static, and can
not be updated, however.  Also, with a torrent, downloaders can't pick which
files they wish to receive, they will get the entire archive.  With a
torrent, you get all or nothing.
Jayson.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Cavallaro" <richcav at verizon.net>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at jaybird.no-ip.info>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated

> Jayson what is the url for your site to get the read dwarf files?>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shaun Everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at jaybird.no-ip.info>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated
>
>
> > thanks jayzon.
> > It looks like its perminantly down.
> > But look don't blame onj.
> > I actually expected the thing  to die ages ago.
> > Honestly, if you were given something to eat that you didn't like or
that
> well you just hated?
> > Would eat it? I rest my case.
> > At 08:26 p.m. 17/08/2005, you wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >Couldn't have said it better myself.  I just now updated my own mirror,
> so
> > >if the site goes down my site is up to date.  Red Dwarf up to I think
5-5
> is
> > >available.
> > >Jayson.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Tony Baechler" <tony at baechler.net>
> > >To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at jaybird.no-ip.info>
> > >Cc: <onj at andrelouis.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:07 AM
> > >Subject: Re: Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hello Andre, Nick, list, and whoever else.  I'm not going to respond
to
> > >> most of this.  There is no point.  I'm not going to be in a bickering
> > >> contest.  I'll just drop the list if it comes to that.
> > >>
> > >> Now then.  Umm, actually I have never downloaded a thing from you
Andre
> > >> except your web pages.  Check your logs from November 2004 if you
don't
> > >> believe me.  Second, you're right.  I'm not going to donate.  I don't
> need
> > >> your complaining for my dollars.  You've got to be kidding.  Third, I
> > >> basically don't care now what happens to the archive because of the
> > >> constant complaining from Andre.  If it's that much of a problem,
just
> > >drop
> > >> it.  I've had to let archive sites go before because of bandwidth, so
I
> do
> > >> understand.
> > >>
> > >> I personally would be willing to take over the archive except the Red
> > >Dwarf
> > >> files if it comes to that.  I have enough bandwidth that I'm not
really
> > >> worried about people downloading everything.  Heck, I have about 1gb
or
> > >> more per day in download traffic already.  The only condition is that
> > >there
> > >> will be an Apache module in place to restrict bandwidth usage.  This
is
> > >> unfortunately necessary and would result in a slower download speed
for
> > >> all, but since I have been running servers off and on for quite a few
> > >years
> > >> now I do understand the bandwidth issues involved and there is no way
> > >> around it.  Also some of the content with prophanity will be removed,
> but
> > >> I'm not sure what or when.
> > >>
> > >> Andre mentioned that I don't know how to run a server.  Please look
at
> > >> http://investigative.net/.  I set up that server and I run it.  I am
> > >> running Debian Sarge, Apache 1.3.33 and Qmail.  So yes, I think I
know
> > >> something about running servers.  I am not worried in the least about
> your
> > >> threats to take away the archive.  I don't wish to run it and I don't
> want
> > >> to be the main site for it, but I would be willing to work with
Jayson
> to
> > >> figure out something.
> > >>
> > >> I will leave you all with one other question.  Is it worth
maintaining
> the
> > >> archive?  If I host or mirror it, is there going to be any new
content?
> > >Is
> > >> there any point?   I personally think not to all the above, which is
> why
> > >> there is no point in bickering with Andre.  The nice thing about
> someone
> > >> else being the owner such as Jayson is that it would eliminate the
> > >> unreasonableness going on.  If he wants to look at planetmirror.com,
he
> > >> would have the option since he would be the new owner, maintainer, or
> > >> whatever you want to call it.  If none of that happens, oh well.  I
> have a
> > >> mirror of everything as of last Oct 31 and I would probably
eventually
> put
> > >> it up for people to download.  Since domains are cheap, I might get
> > >> dectalk.org or dec-talk.org if it's available.  I don't know.
> > >>
> > >> Oh, by the way Andre, it isn't just blind people that want something
> for
> > >> nothing.  It's almost every Internet user.  You probably don't donate
> to
> > >> every software developer or site you use regularly either.  That's
the
> > >> freedom of the Internet.
> > >>
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