Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated

Rich Cavallaro richcav at verizon.net
Wed Aug 17 07:25:18 EDT 2005


Jayson what is the url for your site to get the read dwarf files?>
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shaun Everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at jaybird.no-ip.info>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated


> thanks jayzon.
> It looks like its perminantly down.
> But look don't blame onj.
> I actually expected the thing  to die ages ago.
> Honestly, if you were given something to eat that you didn't like or that
well you just hated?
> Would eat it? I rest my case.
> At 08:26 p.m. 17/08/2005, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >Couldn't have said it better myself.  I just now updated my own mirror,
so
> >if the site goes down my site is up to date.  Red Dwarf up to I think 5-5
is
> >available.
> >Jayson.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tony Baechler" <tony at baechler.net>
> >To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at jaybird.no-ip.info>
> >Cc: <onj at andrelouis.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:07 AM
> >Subject: Re: Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated
> >
> >
> >> Hello Andre, Nick, list, and whoever else.  I'm not going to respond to
> >> most of this.  There is no point.  I'm not going to be in a bickering
> >> contest.  I'll just drop the list if it comes to that.
> >>
> >> Now then.  Umm, actually I have never downloaded a thing from you Andre
> >> except your web pages.  Check your logs from November 2004 if you don't
> >> believe me.  Second, you're right.  I'm not going to donate.  I don't
need
> >> your complaining for my dollars.  You've got to be kidding.  Third, I
> >> basically don't care now what happens to the archive because of the
> >> constant complaining from Andre.  If it's that much of a problem, just
> >drop
> >> it.  I've had to let archive sites go before because of bandwidth, so I
do
> >> understand.
> >>
> >> I personally would be willing to take over the archive except the Red
> >Dwarf
> >> files if it comes to that.  I have enough bandwidth that I'm not really
> >> worried about people downloading everything.  Heck, I have about 1gb or
> >> more per day in download traffic already.  The only condition is that
> >there
> >> will be an Apache module in place to restrict bandwidth usage.  This is
> >> unfortunately necessary and would result in a slower download speed for
> >> all, but since I have been running servers off and on for quite a few
> >years
> >> now I do understand the bandwidth issues involved and there is no way
> >> around it.  Also some of the content with prophanity will be removed,
but
> >> I'm not sure what or when.
> >>
> >> Andre mentioned that I don't know how to run a server.  Please look at
> >> http://investigative.net/.  I set up that server and I run it.  I am
> >> running Debian Sarge, Apache 1.3.33 and Qmail.  So yes, I think I know
> >> something about running servers.  I am not worried in the least about
your
> >> threats to take away the archive.  I don't wish to run it and I don't
want
> >> to be the main site for it, but I would be willing to work with Jayson
to
> >> figure out something.
> >>
> >> I will leave you all with one other question.  Is it worth maintaining
the
> >> archive?  If I host or mirror it, is there going to be any new content?
> >Is
> >> there any point?   I personally think not to all the above, which is
why
> >> there is no point in bickering with Andre.  The nice thing about
someone
> >> else being the owner such as Jayson is that it would eliminate the
> >> unreasonableness going on.  If he wants to look at planetmirror.com, he
> >> would have the option since he would be the new owner, maintainer, or
> >> whatever you want to call it.  If none of that happens, oh well.  I
have a
> >> mirror of everything as of last Oct 31 and I would probably eventually
put
> >> it up for people to download.  Since domains are cheap, I might get
> >> dectalk.org or dec-talk.org if it's available.  I don't know.
> >>
> >> Oh, by the way Andre, it isn't just blind people that want something
for
> >> nothing.  It's almost every Internet user.  You probably don't donate
to
> >> every software developer or site you use regularly either.  That's the
> >> freedom of the Internet.
> >>
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