[Critique Group 2] Leonard's critiques for Nov. session
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Val
The first thing I feel is that I really, really, really want to know the
specifics. What is the calamity? But even without them, the poem clearly shows
the state of mind and emotions.
Of course, when doing a poetic form that is so restrictive, I doubt that
there would be any way that it would accommodate the whole story.
It reminds me of a line from Leonard Cohen in which he says he wanted to
write a poem of living with defeat.
I’ve made some suggestions as to other ways to say the same things, with
some advantages.
Line 3. Life just tore a ragged rift (This has the alliteration of the r
sounds without two words gap and hole that mean the same thing.)
Line 2: I like the alliteration of the ‘so sure’ phrase.
Line 4: I like the r sounds.
Line 5: sad ‘and’ sick at heart. the word, ‘and’ makes the s
alliteration more rhythmic.)
Lines 7 and 8: I like the ‘ARD’ internal rhyme.
Calamity, Acrostic
Valerie Moreno
1 Can this be happening
2 After I was so sure...
3 Life just punched a gaping hole
4 Along borders of resolve,
5 Making me sad, sick at heart,
6 Incredibly vulnerable.
7 This is hard, defeating,
8 Yet, I dare to hope regardless.
------
Abbie
Poignant, to the point, and almost universal in sentiment. There is a
matter-of-fact description, nothing soliciting strong feelings by themselves,
but so relatable to those of similar experience that it is full of
reminiscent emotion. I wonder how people who did not have that kind of experience
would react to this piece.
That first phrase, ‘in the good old days,’ comes up more and more these
days. It means so many different things to so many different people. A whole
book can be written about it.
Lines 4 and 5 clearly define one of the gender roles in the good-old-days.
There is a sense of comfort in seeing the man as carver and women as the
cooks and servers, but I wonder whether it is thought of in the same way by
our culture. Men often participate in the food preparation, and women
might feel put upon if they didn’t. So the piece brings these questions to
bear, but I’m not sure the author intended it as such.
I never heard of an electric carving knife when I was a kid. Even today I
have not seen one at the dinner table.
The division of the sexes where the men sat around watching a football
game and the women, who have done all the work, clean up, put me off a little,
even though I am a man and would seem to be a beneficiary of this system.
In my childhood days, I don’t remember having football on TV. But the men
would get together and talk about something like cars while the women
cleaned up after the feast.
In the end it is just what the title says it is, a reflection . At first,
it does not seem to want to make a statement. But any good writing
emotionally involves the reader, and there are always going to be a variety of
emotions. I was involved with the piece as I believe most people would be,
and I think the author is making a very strong and clear statement through
showing rather than telling.
line 3: There are two incidences where the word ‘sometimes’ is used. Once
for doing grace and the other for the use of an electric carving knife.
That would tend to indicate grace and using a carving knife have as much or
as little importance. Is that what the author intends?It might be an
important question, since the essence of Thanksgiving is giving thanks.
Lines 9 and 10 also uses ‘sometimes’ to describe the children eating
separately or together with the family. Is the author making a strong statement
about whether that is important or not? In the Jewish Passover dinner, the
children are made an integral part of the ceremony. In fact, in many ways
it is a way to teach children to be mindful and grateful. so for this
reader, it is an important question.
In lines 10 and 11 the author says that the children were usually
integrated into the family sitting arrangement. I think she was saying that this
was more reflective of the closeness of the family than sitting separately.
In the last paragraph, she speaks of something lost. The essence is
togetherness verses aloneness. the loss of tradition and meaningfulness that
family used to provide. We look for a facsimile in our groups and institu
tions, but they don’t quite do the job. Nothing can replace the coming together
of several generations of family.
The poem says all this as only a poem can do.
THANKSGIVING REFLECTION
1 In the good old days, we gathered at the table:
2 parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins,
3 sometimes said grace, sometimes didn't.
4 Dad, Granddad, or some other male carved the turkey,
5 sometimes with an electric knife, sometimes not.
6 Platters of food were passed around:
7 turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, yams,
8vegetables, rolls, cranberry sauce.
9Sometimes children sat at a separate table.
10Most of the time, we all ate together
11like the big happy family we were.
12 After we filled our bellies, pumpkin pie was served.
13 When we’d eaten as much of that as we could,
14 men retreated to a football game on TV
15 while women cleaned up.
16 Children played or got into mischief.
17 Now, with parents and grandparents gone,
18 uncles, aunts, cousins scattered across the country,
19 I eat my Thanksgiving meal
20 at the local senior center, then go home,
21 read a good book, wish for the way things were.
--
Alice
I found it very interesting how you could make a complete poem in one
sentence with a minimum of punctuation. It gives a new and positive meaning to
the run-on sentence. I both enjoyed and found the description of the house’
s and surrounding environs challenging. I put myself on what I imagined to
be a veranda type porch where I could look out in three directions. I
thought the front of the house was facing north, the drive way coming in from
the west. I had difficulty when it came to the pile of shale, because up to
that point I was envisioning everything from the vantage point of the
porch. It took some time before I realized that I had to leave the porch and
climb to the top of that pile to get to the vantage point of being able to
look southward. The overall picture was charming and beautiful.
In the description of the locket, I wondered whether there is a physical
locket which is also kept in the heart metaphorically speaking, or wither
the locket was only in the heart. I don’t find it to be a poetic problem,
just that I had to think about it and still would like to know the answer to
the question.
I found myself having some concern for the safety of the house when I read
about the sinking driveway. I wonder whether that house is still there,
being so close to a sink hole. It would be over 100 years old.
My first impression of the mother walking in circles was of someone who
was in a panic and not totally in charge of her senses. That was heart
breaking. But then, it seemed to me, that in such a wide expanse of property, the
neighbors would have been at some distance and potentially anywhere. So
maybe she was purposefully walking in a very wide, circle trying to spot or
attract the notice of someone who could help. Both images are compelling.
The part which quickly mentions the fact of the stroke begs a separate
literary work to describe the details of the episode. It would not work to go
into those details in this poem to do so, where it is handled effectively
given the confines of the narrative structure..
I loved the fading away ending. It gave me the impression of a painting
fading into the distance. Very effective.
I find the poem absolutely beautiful, despite my tedious analysis.
Biography of a House in the Heartland
by Alice Jane-Marie Massa
1 In a locket
2 in my heart,
3 I keep and remember this
4 precious place
5 with clumps of lilies-of-the-valley clinging
6 to her east side like pretty paint on toenails while
7 the perennial porch swing, successful hummingbird feeder, and wrought
iron
8 bedeck the large front porch from where
9 three points of the compass can offer a view of
10 the lawn, west of the white-rocked driveway, sinking
11 (due to the abandoned underground coal shaft filling with water),
along with
12 the field of Christmas trees, the wheat fields and corn fields and some
cattle
13 to the north until the east span is revealed
14 between the blue spruce and the gob pile of shale
15 atop which is unveiled the southern vista of
16 the field that rolls back to the small woods from where
17 one can easily walk to the back door of the house
18 built by my grandfather in 1914
19 (the year his youngest, my mother, was born)
20 and lived in by my parents from after
21 my dad’s four and a half years in World War II until his death at age
84 when
22 my mother walked circles in the snow until a neighbor came to help at
this house
23 where a cerebral hemorrhage took away all
24 but the memories
25 and the heart
26 of a house
27 in the Hoosier heartland.
I’ve been there; done that. This poem describes a state of mind and a
process that I totally relate to and gives the message in such a way that only
poetry can do. It is both a dark and light piece of work. It speaks of the
will to persist through emotional adversity. It describes the fight
against despair and never giving up the belief that the storm will end, despite
a lack of evidence.
The title and concept of racing the sun required a lot of thought on my
part. I couldn’t just breeze through them. I usually have to understand a
poem in order to get satisfaction from it, but I don’t mind having to work for
an understanding. To me, the poet is in a dreary place, while he hears
and is thrilled by the music of always being in the light and warmth of the
sun.
Racing means never having to be in darkness. If you can keep up with the
sun, night will never come. The poet cannot even be under the rays of the
sun for a moment, let alone being perpetually blessed by its influence.
In line 6 he says he’s been here before. That implies to me that he knows
it is a potentially transient condition which he has found his way out of
before.
Line 7 says attacking the cold depression head on only accentuates the
condition. But then the poem gives beautiful examples of the kinds of things
that can at least ameliorate the cold darkness.
lines 11 and 12 tells how being able to reach out a hand to help someone
else proved to him that he was stronger than he thought and gave him hope
of returning, but perhaps not yet.
Line 17 reinforces an earlier message that you can’t rule or work yourself
into happiness. If one endures the cold, with hope and openness to giving
and receiving kindness, love, etc. the circumstances will eventually bring
you out of that dark, cold place. Or at least, it is what we must believe
for it ever to happen.
In the last line, he takes the passive form of the action. He is lifted.
He does not lift himself.
So the poem balances the active and passive approaches to life. The
concept is controversial in philosophical and religious thinking.
The most positive statement I could make about this or any poem is that it
is real.
Racing the sun
C by Brad Corallo
Word count 140
1 At dawn, I heard a band of minstrels
2 whose madrigal told of racing the sun.
3And though my heart thrilled to the sound,
4 the sun was out of reach.
5 Restrained, in a cold and narrow place That is all too familiar.
6 Yes, I've been here before.
7I know that struggling to escape only tightens the bonds.
8 Being enfolded in the arms of a friend
9 gave me back some footing.
A10 nd being given a chance
11 to offer unexpected kindness to a deeply troubled soul,
12 portended hope of returning.
13 But still the sun eludes me.
14 Initially at a snail's pace, forward
15 with resolution and belief,
16 no matter that it feels like a fool's errand.
17 By virtue of circumstance
18 I shall be lifted up once again
19 suspended in a shaft of golden radiance.
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