[DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with graphical Linux.

Wed Feb 22 23:38:33 EST 2023

I don't have time to go running around all over the place getting notarized
copies of this and that and the other thing. I have better things to do
with my life than running around playing lawyer and legal stuff if you like
doing that stuff Have Fun

On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 23:26 Karen Lewellen <klewellen at shellworld.net> wrote:

> No.
> A written notarized copy  where in said employee granted unlimited rights
> to the code?  that would be fantastic.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Would a recording from a former fonix employee make you happy?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of Karen
> > Lewellen
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 17:40
> > To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with
> graphical
> > Linux.
> >
> > Again, given what the public license says about requirements, you would
> > need   such an agreement not to care in writing.  because that license
> > agreement says otherwise.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >> A downpayment for decTalk. for compiling it for android.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of Karen
> >> Lewellen
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 14:44
> >> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with
> >> graphical Linux.
> >>
> >> Actually, not really.
> >> And again, you have this refusal documented in what way?
> >> Hearsay is not legally binding.
> >> If the parties involved are so willing to sign away their rights, they
> >> can legally sign away their rights.
> >> And a down payment for what exactly?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> I offered to pay them $1000 as a downpayment. That is quite a
> >>> substantial amount don't you think?
> >>> And they said no.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of Karen
> >>> Lewellen
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 11:13
> >>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with
> >> graphical
> >>> Linux.
> >>>
> >>> And just what motivation are you providing for them to care?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yes I reached out to code Factory they are not the same company they
> >>>> do not care at all.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 10:58 Karen Lewellen
> >>>> <klewellen at shellworld.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> And  you have likewise reached out to code factory?
> >>>>> It is possible they may be the same company?
> >>>>> Nothing personal, but given your question about how public licenses
> >>>>> work, can we be assured that those you have contacted will take
> >>>>> this matter seriously?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> No sorry. Jake is quite busy this time of year so I reached out to
> >>>>>> others who may know the fonix employees who gave the code to us.
> >>>>>> If there is any progress I'll let you know.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of
> >>>>>> Karen Lewellen
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 10:00
> >>>>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with
> >>>>> graphical
> >>>>>> Linux.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And, it is not likely to join android until the legal barriers are
> >>>>> removed.
> >>>>>> Any progress on that front?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Too bad it doesn't run on Android yet. Well at least we have
> >>>>>>> espeak with all of its new variants such as Glenn and wave and
> >>>>>>> many others
> >>> now.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 00:01 Karen Lewellen
> >>>>>>> <klewellen at shellworld.net>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> because that requires permission.
> >>>>>>>> why not get that permission from the individuals providing the
> >>>>>>>> source code?
> >>>>>>>> Anyone adding a general public license must have the right to do
> >>>>>>>> as
> >>>>> much.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Well why not just go on to its GitHub page and remove all the
> >>>>>>>>> licenses
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> just replace them with the general public license?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023, 23:17 Karen Lewellen
> >>>>>>>>> <klewellen at shellworld.net>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi members,
> >>>>>>>>>> Sharing this post from the blind Linux users group.  Hope it
> >>>>> generates
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>> smile.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 22:59:35 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion
> >>>>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion
> >>>>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: What a find! DECTalk!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to be in the fediverse right now. Looking through my
> >>>>>>>> timeline, I
> >>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>> found a link to a Github repository that has DECTalk source
> >>>>>>>>>> code, apparently released by some of the original DECTalk
> >>>>>>>>>> developers.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/dectalk/dectalk
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The LICENSE file still has scary words like "proprietary" and
> >>>>>>>>>> "confidential"
> >>>>>>>>>> and "all rights reserved," but the source builds and works. I
> >>>>>>>>>> have it working in speech-dispatcher with Orca as I write this.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Note that this is the DECTalk software version 4.x, the one
> >>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>> sounds
> >>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>> like the DECTalk Express from the 1990's, so anyone who needs
> >>>>> hardware
> >>>>>>>>>> speech
> >>>>>>>>>> should feel right at home with this. No, this is not the 5.x
> >>>>>>>>>> DECTalk
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>> really sounds like crap. Have fun and enjoy, and I do hope
> >>>>>>>>>> they fix
> >>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>> license soon. It would be good to have another truly free
> >>>>>>>>>> speech synthesizer to play with, and this is definitely a huge
> >>>>>>>>>> step in that direction.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ~ Kyle
> >>>>>>>>>>
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