<div dir="auto">I don't have time to go running around all over the place getting notarized copies of this and that and the other thing. I have better things to do with my life than running around playing lawyer and legal stuff if you like doing that stuff Have Fun</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 23:26 Karen Lewellen <<a href="mailto:klewellen@shellworld.net">klewellen@shellworld.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">No.<br>
A written notarized copy  where in said employee granted unlimited rights <br>
to the code?  that would be fantastic.<br>
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, <a href="mailto:joshknnd1982@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">joshknnd1982@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
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> Would a recording from a former fonix employee make you happy?<br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Dectalk <<a href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a>> On Behalf Of Karen<br>
> Lewellen<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 17:40<br>
> To: DECtalk <<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with graphical<br>
> Linux.<br>
><br>
> Again, given what the public license says about requirements, you would<br>
> need   such an agreement not to care in writing.  because that license<br>
> agreement says otherwise.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, <a href="mailto:joshknnd1982@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">joshknnd1982@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> A downpayment for decTalk. for compiling it for android.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Dectalk <<a href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a>> On Behalf Of Karen<br>
>> Lewellen<br>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 14:44<br>
>> To: DECtalk <<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with<br>
>> graphical Linux.<br>
>><br>
>> Actually, not really.<br>
>> And again, you have this refusal documented in what way?<br>
>> Hearsay is not legally binding.<br>
>> If the parties involved are so willing to sign away their rights, they<br>
>> can legally sign away their rights.<br>
>> And a down payment for what exactly?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, <a href="mailto:joshknnd1982@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">joshknnd1982@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> I offered to pay them $1000 as a downpayment. That is quite a<br>
>>> substantial amount don't you think?<br>
>>> And they said no.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>> From: Dectalk <<a href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a>> On Behalf Of Karen<br>
>>> Lewellen<br>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 11:13<br>
>>> To: DECtalk <<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with<br>
>> graphical<br>
>>> Linux.<br>
>>><br>
>>> And just what motivation are you providing for them to care?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Yes I reached out to code Factory they are not the same company they<br>
>>>> do not care at all.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 10:58 Karen Lewellen<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:klewellen@shellworld.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">klewellen@shellworld.net</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> And  you have likewise reached out to code factory?<br>
>>>>> It is possible they may be the same company?<br>
>>>>> Nothing personal, but given your question about how public licenses<br>
>>>>> work, can we be assured that those you have contacted will take<br>
>>>>> this matter seriously?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, <a href="mailto:joshknnd1982@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">joshknnd1982@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> No sorry. Jake is quite busy this time of year so I reached out to<br>
>>>>>> others who may know the fonix employees who gave the code to us.<br>
>>>>>> If there is any progress I'll let you know.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>>>>> From: Dectalk <<a href="mailto:dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dectalk-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a>> On Behalf Of<br>
>>>>>> Karen Lewellen<br>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 10:00<br>
>>>>>> To: DECtalk <<a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</a>><br>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with<br>
>>>>> graphical<br>
>>>>>> Linux.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> And, it is not likely to join android until the legal barriers are<br>
>>>>> removed.<br>
>>>>>> Any progress on that front?<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Too bad it doesn't run on Android yet. Well at least we have<br>
>>>>>>> espeak with all of its new variants such as Glenn and wave and<br>
>>>>>>> many others<br>
>>> now.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 00:01 Karen Lewellen<br>
>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:klewellen@shellworld.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">klewellen@shellworld.net</a>><br>
>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> because that requires permission.<br>
>>>>>>>> why not get that permission from the individuals providing the<br>
>>>>>>>> source code?<br>
>>>>>>>> Anyone adding a general public license must have the right to do<br>
>>>>>>>> as<br>
>>>>> much.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Well why not just go on to its GitHub page and remove all the<br>
>>>>>>>>> licenses<br>
>>>>>>>> and<br>
>>>>>>>>> just replace them with the general public license?<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023, 23:17 Karen Lewellen<br>
>>>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:klewellen@shellworld.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">klewellen@shellworld.net</a>><br>
>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi members,<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Sharing this post from the blind Linux users group.  Hope it<br>
>>>>> generates<br>
>>>>>> a<br>
>>>>>>>>>> smile.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 22:59:35 -0500<br>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:blinux-list@redhat.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">blinux-list@redhat.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:blinux-list@redhat.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">blinux-list@redhat.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: What a find! DECTalk!<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to be in the fediverse right now. Looking through my<br>
>>>>>>>> timeline, I<br>
>>>>>>>>>> just<br>
>>>>>>>>>> found a link to a Github repository that has DECTalk source<br>
>>>>>>>>>> code, apparently released by some of the original DECTalk<br>
>>>>>>>>>> developers.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> <a href="https://github.com/dectalk/dectalk" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/dectalk/dectalk</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> The LICENSE file still has scary words like "proprietary" and<br>
>>>>>>>>>> "confidential"<br>
>>>>>>>>>> and "all rights reserved," but the source builds and works. I<br>
>>>>>>>>>> have it working in speech-dispatcher with Orca as I write this.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Note that this is the DECTalk software version 4.x, the one<br>
>>>>>>>>>> that<br>
>>>>> sounds<br>
>>>>>>>>>> just<br>
>>>>>>>>>> like the DECTalk Express from the 1990's, so anyone who needs<br>
>>>>> hardware<br>
>>>>>>>>>> speech<br>
>>>>>>>>>> should feel right at home with this. No, this is not the 5.x<br>
>>>>>>>>>> DECTalk<br>
>>>>>>>> that<br>
>>>>>>>>>> really sounds like crap. Have fun and enjoy, and I do hope<br>
>>>>>>>>>> they fix<br>
>>>>>> this<br>
>>>>>>>>>> license soon. It would be good to have another truly free<br>
>>>>>>>>>> speech synthesizer to play with, and this is definitely a huge<br>
>>>>>>>>>> step in that direction.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> ~ Kyle<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:Blinux-list@redhat.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Blinux-list@redhat.com</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>> <a href="https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>> Dectalk mailing list<br>
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>>>><br>
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