[DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with graphical Linux.

Wed Feb 22 17:59:13 EST 2023

     All right I've had about enough of this.

Ever since Dectalk had been publicly available all it's done was 
generate what I call a full scale war started by mainly Kenedy.  I mean 
come on now, all that happened today was a kind and thoughtful person 
posted a message from another list about something good with the 
product.  Needless to say, Kenedy managed to create an elaborate 
structure for argument and turned the discussion to crap.  Look I'm 
tired of this.  It is not the fault of the rest of us that you simply 
cannot grasp simple law.  I mean this is sad.  The product has been made 
available.  Use it, be happy, and when it gets ported it gets ported.  
You want to try some silly little trick to have the license converted I 
can't stop you.  But understand something real good, Kenedy.  The one 
who's wining and complaining is you, and you can't follow simple 
instructions from anyone that says stop, chasing, down, older, 
developers.  They're dealing with a lot of stress right now as it is and 
the last thing they need is you nagging them and only making stuff 
worse.  So please do us all a favor and sit down, be quiet, and enjoy 
the product on what ever platform it is intended for right now.  That 
said, I wish to hear no more of your crying and bitching.  I am removing 
myself from this list as Don did, and I will have no further contact 
with you on this matter, Kenedy. Thanks, and goodbye folks.

On 2/22/2023 5:42 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:
> Would a recording from a former fonix employee make you happy?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of Karen
> Lewellen
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 17:40
> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with graphical
> Linux.
>
> Again, given what the public license says about requirements, you would
> need   such an agreement not to care in writing.  because that license
> agreement says otherwise.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> A downpayment for decTalk. for compiling it for android.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of Karen
>> Lewellen
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 14:44
>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with
>> graphical Linux.
>>
>> Actually, not really.
>> And again, you have this refusal documented in what way?
>> Hearsay is not legally binding.
>> If the parties involved are so willing to sign away their rights, they
>> can legally sign away their rights.
>> And a down payment for what exactly?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I offered to pay them $1000 as a downpayment. That is quite a
>>> substantial amount don't you think?
>>> And they said no.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of Karen
>>> Lewellen
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 11:13
>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with
>> graphical
>>> Linux.
>>>
>>> And just what motivation are you providing for them to care?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes I reached out to code Factory they are not the same company they
>>>> do not care at all.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 10:58 Karen Lewellen
>>>> <klewellen at shellworld.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> And  you have likewise reached out to code factory?
>>>>> It is possible they may be the same company?
>>>>> Nothing personal, but given your question about how public licenses
>>>>> work, can we be assured that those you have contacted will take
>>>>> this matter seriously?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No sorry. Jake is quite busy this time of year so I reached out to
>>>>>> others who may know the fonix employees who gave the code to us.
>>>>>> If there is any progress I'll let you know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Karen Lewellen
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 10:00
>>>>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with
>>>>> graphical
>>>>>> Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, it is not likely to join android until the legal barriers are
>>>>> removed.
>>>>>> Any progress on that front?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Too bad it doesn't run on Android yet. Well at least we have
>>>>>>> espeak with all of its new variants such as Glenn and wave and
>>>>>>> many others
>>> now.
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 00:01 Karen Lewellen
>>>>>>> <klewellen at shellworld.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> because that requires permission.
>>>>>>>> why not get that permission from the individuals providing the
>>>>>>>> source code?
>>>>>>>> Anyone adding a general public license must have the right to do
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>> much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well why not just go on to its GitHub page and remove all the
>>>>>>>>> licenses
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> just replace them with the general public license?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023, 23:17 Karen Lewellen
>>>>>>>>> <klewellen at shellworld.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi members,
>>>>>>>>>> Sharing this post from the blind Linux users group.  Hope it
>>>>> generates
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> smile.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 22:59:35 -0500
>>>>>>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion
>>>>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion
>>>>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: What a find! DECTalk!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to be in the fediverse right now. Looking through my
>>>>>>>> timeline, I
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> found a link to a Github repository that has DECTalk source
>>>>>>>>>> code, apparently released by some of the original DECTalk
>>>>>>>>>> developers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/dectalk/dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The LICENSE file still has scary words like "proprietary" and
>>>>>>>>>> "confidential"
>>>>>>>>>> and "all rights reserved," but the source builds and works. I
>>>>>>>>>> have it working in speech-dispatcher with Orca as I write this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Note that this is the DECTalk software version 4.x, the one
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> like the DECTalk Express from the 1990's, so anyone who needs
>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>>> speech
>>>>>>>>>> should feel right at home with this. No, this is not the 5.x
>>>>>>>>>> DECTalk
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> really sounds like crap. Have fun and enjoy, and I do hope
>>>>>>>>>> they fix
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> license soon. It would be good to have another truly free
>>>>>>>>>> speech synthesizer to play with, and this is definitely a huge
>>>>>>>>>> step in that direction.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ~ Kyle
>>>>>>>>>>
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