[DECtalk] decTalk on IOS with TestFlite beta app?

Tue Nov 15 20:04:40 EST 2022

I just wouldn't worry about it really.  

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> On Nov 15, 2022, at 19:13, jake mcmahanCharles Mcmahan <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There's a little more too it than that, but you've got your opinions.
>> On 11/15/2022 7:10 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
>> yes, possibly could, but it's highly unlikely that he will take any action.
>> 
>>  you're not going to get much money out of suing some blind person who is living on very minimal Social Security. It's just not worth doing.  Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 19:03, jake mcmahanCharles Mcmahan <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>     Sorry, I meant that message to go to the list.      Oh boy... Yes, the company can sue over this even if they are "dead.  Just because they're dead doesn't make it less likely that a lawsuit can come
>>> your way, because there are people still alive that were working for that company(Old grumpy man Roger) who could take due course of action.  The law doesn't
>>> care if you're blind or not.  Nobody is going to care if you're blind or not.  you break the law you break it.
>>> 
>>>> On 11/15/2022 7:00 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
>>>> and who knows, if, and when that day ever occurs, maybe society will have reached a point where everybody owns everything, and nobody owns anything. So, for example, if you wanted to sleep with my wife, as you said, in your previous example, you would simply clone her and have your own version of her.  but now this is just wild speculation, and it's really getting off topic from what this list is about so I would rather just put this whole topic to rest and work on what can be worked on as far as maybe putting more effort into getting the rights and permissions to use the source code for the very very niche subject subset of the blind community, which is interested in this very old product. Ra rather than engaging in wild speculations and possibly wasting peoples time on the list.   but then you would have to make cloning completely legal all over the world and then at which point you completely devalue humanity itself and so on and so forth but that's completely off subject. OK if you want to continue speculating just email me privately off list now closing topic.
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 17:13, Don <Text_to_Speech at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/15/2022 1:45 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>> that's not a very good analogy. What it is like is, is it illegal or would
>>>>>> it be illegal if I walked into your house with a matter replication device,
>>>>>> and I started making exact duplicates of everything you owned, and then took
>>>>>> them back to my house and used the duplicate objects as if they were mine?
>>>>>> Think about it, as if what, if we had the ability to copy any type of
>>>>>> inanimate object just as easily as we can copy and paste from our computers?
>>>>>> That's more so but it's like.    so the question is this, since I walked in
>>>>>> to your house, and I didn't physically take anything, but rather, I
>>>>>> duplicated everything you owned, and then I took it to my place and Eyes
>>>>>> used it, did I really steal from you or not because you still own the
>>>>>> original objects. I simply have an exact duplicate of the things in your
>>>>>> house, they're just as good as your things they're just a solid, they're
>>>>>> made of the same atoms and molecules in elements. There's simply an exact
>>>>>> duplicate made from an advanced matter replication device. So did I really
>>>>>> steal from you or not?
>>>>> If I sleep with your wife -- but leave her at your home so you can have
>>>>> "sloppy seconds" -- did I really steal anything from you?  POINT to the item
>>>>> that I stole...
>>>>> 
>>>>> [Yet, the law recognizes that I can be prosecuted for "alienation of affection" -- even though she *consented* to the act.  You can sure *her* for divorce
>>>>> even though she hasn't "stolen" anything from you!]
>>>>> 
>>>>> The law protects things to which we ARBITRARILY assign value.  Presumably,
>>>>> you're wife's body and affections are of value to you, her spouse, else
>>>>> there's be no need for laws protecting those!
>>>>> 
>>>>> When/if a "matter replication device" appears, you can bet your ass
>>>>> that the law will change to protect "owners" from "unwanted copying".
>>>>> Which statue of David is the original?  Your copying actions have
>>>>> diminished the value of MY legitimate original.  I want to be
>>>>> compensated for that act.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you really think monied interests are going to sit by and NOT lobby
>>>>> politicians for protections against such "thefts"?
>>>>> 
>>>>> How big is your illegal music collection?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does Stevie Wonder make all of his music available to *blind* listeners
>>>>> out of sympathy for their plight?  And, just charge *sighted* listeners?
>>>>> 
>>>>> You sound like someone who KNOWS they are doing something illegal and immoral
>>>>> and is looking to justify his actions to others.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I bet you're a regular church-goer, too!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tell Microsoft that you can freely, and with impunity, embed DOS in
>>>>> a product "because it is 'abandoned'" (by YOUR definition of the
>>>>> term).  They will happily send their lawyers over for "proper
>>>>> introductions".
>>>>> 
>>>>> I worked with a non-profit GIVING AWAY computers to "needy people
>>>>> and organizations".  We *still* had to approach MS for valid licenses
>>>>> to install their "obsolete" products on those machines.
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