[DECtalk] voice creation

Thu Sep 7 20:40:58 EDT 2017

Are they a lot more responsive if you do tiny and small?

On 9/7/2017 7:58 PM, Brandon Tyson wrote:
> Hello,
>
> To solve voice response issues you can build a smaller voice set e.g.
> Select the Tiny/Small instead of the other choices. Then you should
> still be able to do hand corrections to the audio, but it won't sound
> quite as good overall but this is an option and they still are
> intelligible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
> On 9/7/17, Blake Roberts <beroberts at hughes.net> wrote:
>> Josh, Your experience with Jake's Circum Reality Keynote voice explains why
>> it made my screen reader crash a few minutes after I started using it
>> months
>> ago. Ulysses, The Keynote voice referred to is Jake's Circum Reality
>> version
>> of the Keynote Gold synthesizer. I believe Jake used his Braille Note
>> notetaker which contains the Keynote voice and recorded thousands of words
>> with it via Circum Reality software. I think the Keynote voice used in the
>> recording is a card or chip within the Braille Note.
>>
>> Luis, I know that Cereproc offers a voice creation service for a fee. I
>> contacted Cereproc a year or two ago asking about accessibility of the
>> process. Specifically I wanted to know if creation of a Cereproc voice
>> requires Flash. The answer was yes for setup of the headset which they ship
>> after voice creator purchases the service. The rest of the process is
>> apparently in HTML5. That's what I was told then. I chose not to purchase
>> CereVoice service at that time because Flash requirement would prevent me
>> from independently completing the process.  I don't know if Flash is still
>> utilized in Cereproc's voice creation service (CereVoice). I have no idea
>> about the voice creation process for making an Acapela or Cepstral voice.
>>
>> Blake
>>
>>
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>>
>>    _____
>>
>> From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:joshknnd1982 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 5:43 PM
>> To: DECtalk; Luis Carlos González Moráles; Blake Roberts
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] voice creation
>>
>>
>>
>> last time i tried it the keynote sapi5 voice that he made is very very slow
>> and unresponsive. that is just how the circumReality voices are. With NVDA
>> its almost unuseable.
>>
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>> On 9/7/2017 5:22 PM, Luis Carlos González Moráles wrote:
>>
>> Circum Reality. and If you didn't know, CereProc, Acapela Group, Cepstral,
>> ETC. Have the capability to build your oune voice, but I don't know where
>> we, I say I, can start.
>>
>> Ulysses Harmony Garcia via Dectalk escribió:
>>
>> Hi Blake,
>> I didn't know there was a KeyNote voice for SAPI 5. How was this converted?
>> What does CR stand for?
>> -Ulysses
>>
>> On 9/7/2017 12:53 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>
>> Yes, some of the Circum Reality voices sound good. It's also wonderful that
>> Jake Gross made a SAPI keynote. I did not know that I could record myself
>> saying a word for correct intonation. Is version of Circum Reality on
>> Jake's
>> site the most recent version? My only issue with CR on Jake's site is lack
>> of uninstaller. Removing a installed CircumReality voice requires editing
>> the registry. I had to do that when I had CR voice(s) on my computer some
>> time ago. Editing the registry scares me because of the damage incorrectly
>> editing registry entries can do to a computer. Is there a newer version of
>> CR available which uninstalls a voice/ removes voice/CR registry keys?
>>
>> Blake
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    _____
>>
>>
>> From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>> Brandon Tyson
>> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 12:47 PM
>> To: DECtalk
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] voice creation
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I wanted to touch on one point please:
>>
>>
>>
>> Even if they can’t do SAPI, and even though this wouldn’t be the same, I’m
>> still quite happy with the now open-sourced CircumReality voice and think
>> that they sound pretty good.
>>
>> What I particularly like about those is that even if they do have a
>> mispronunciation, it’s giving you the possibility to change the way a
>> particular word, or even whole phrases, sound through manual hand made
>> recordings, I think, which would theoretically be used in conjunction with
>> the synthesizer itself.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does this make sense?
>>
>>
>>
>> E.g. A user types in “Wow!” but they find the intonation is incorrect. It
>> says “wow.” Instead, making it sound boring. So the user can go in and
>> manually correct this to have it say “Wow!” correctly by making an
>> individual recording for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Devin Prater <mailto:r.d.t.prater at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 8:56 AM
>> To: DECtalk <mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] voice creation
>>
>>
>>
>> Yuly, GPU is the Graphics processing unit, and the CPU is the central
>> processing unit.
>>
>> A neural net is is a way for computers to learn as a human does, through
>> artificial intelligence.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 7:39 AM, Ulysses Harmony Garcia via Dectalk
>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>
>> What is GPU, and how is that different from CPU? Also, how does neural
>> networking work? Does the computer map out a brain on a series of
>> coordinates the way it does when mapping out an MRI or 3D printing the
>> model
>> of the brain? I'm interested in knowing what programming languages,
>> interpreter scripts, etc they use so that people in college and university
>> labs who do neuroscientific work can build more neural networks to
>> experiment on.
>> I've read some sci-fi literature on how mind-uploading could work, but the
>> problem is that it would be nearly impossible to calculate the exact number
>> of neurones, neurotransmitters, synapses, and receptors, and which memories
>> or part of identity they link up to. It would require a huge load of
>> processing and a really high knowledge of map coordination in three
>> dimensions to put a series of binary code in each region of how the brain
>> would look like.
>> -Ulysses
>>
>> On 9/7/2017 5:22 AM, Piotr Machacz wrote:
>>
>> I don’t think LyreBird will ever be able to make local voices, SAPI or
>> otherwise. At least not in the near future. The way I understand it, their
>> system uses a massive GPU cluster to run a neural net that gets trained on
>> people’s voices (this is why if you make enough recordings it learns to
>> mimic you so well). It literally makes connections and figures out patterns
>> like a human brain. If you were to run something like this on a single home
>> computer, even one with a beefy CPU or preferably a good high end GPU, I
>> imagine it would take days to train, and then minutes if not a few hours to
>> generate 1 clip of speech. That being said, neural nets are getting more
>> and
>> more common and are started to be used on a small scale on computers or
>> phones, and some companies like Microsoft or Google are developing
>> processor
>> chips designed specifically for neural nets. So maybe you’ll see this
>> become
>> an offline technology in a few years. For now, we know that lyrebird wants
>> to make an API available for this technology, so you can expect apps and
>> websites to make use of it (IE a chatting website might let you enter your
>> voice fingerprint and then you can talk to other people by typing text and
>> getting your actual voice out, or perhaps getting news or weather spoken to
>> you with your own voice)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7 Sep 2017, at 11:13, Jayson Smith <jaybird at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't know of any other voice creation program which can make a SAPI
>> voice. If you still have the original recordings, and you still own the
>> copyright in and to them I.E. you didn't sign some sort of agreement giving
>> all your rights to Innoetics, you should in theory be able to use such a
>> service if one were to exist at some point in the future. You might try
>> contacting Lyrebird and explaining your situation, see what they say.
>>
>> Sorry I can't be of more help,
>>
>> Jayson
>>
>> On 9/6/2017 3:03 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>> Lyrebird sounds interesting. I notice that in FAQ Lyrebird says they
>>> can create a higher-quality voice if I have a lot of recordings but
>>> this is not available in the current beta. On a related topic, let me
>>> put all my cards on the table. Before Innoetics was acquired by
>>> Samsung, I was creating a SAPI of myself with help from a innoetics
>>> founder. In July 2017 around the time of Samsung's acquisition of the
>>> company, the Innoetics founder told me he would send me a SAPI of my
>>> voice using the thousands of sentences I recorded. Due to no SAPI
>>> received after almost 2 months from that promise, I'm thinking the
>>> Innoetics founder  whom I won't specify on-list might not be able to
>>> create Blake Sapi. I'm not trying to sound critical of the indivudal.
>>> I'm just accepting the possibility that aforementioned promise might
>>> not be fulfilled. Does anyone know of a voice creation program which
>>> can create a SAPI from already recorded sentence wave files? I spent
>>> many hours and months recording over a thousand  sentences for the
>>> aforementioned Innoetics Blake Sapi. I did the recording at no
>>> financial cost for personal/friends use. I don't want my time/effort
>>> to be wasted. Blake
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Dectalk
>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Jayson Smith
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 12:20 PM To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> Subject: [DECtalk] Lyrebird TTS, a demo is finally here!
>>> Hi all,
>>> A few months ago, I heard about Lyrebird, a future project which
>>> would allow anyone to create a synthetic clone of their own voice.
>>> Last night I found out that it's finally here, in an early beta form.
>>> If you go to http://lyrebird.ai <http://lyrebird.ai/>  and create an
>> account, you can then
>>
>>> record a minimum of thirty sentences they specify, the more you
>>> record the better, and then create your digital voice. Then you can
>>> have it speak any text you choose. I've played with it, and while the
>>> quality isn't the best, it does pretty accurately capture my voice,
>>> as well as most of the other people I know of who have created
>>> voices. Check it out!
>>> Jayson
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