[DECtalk] voice creation

Brandon Tyson brandongold98 at gmail.com
Thu Sep 7 19:58:08 EDT 2017


Hello,

To solve voice response issues you can build a smaller voice set e.g.
Select the Tiny/Small instead of the other choices. Then you should
still be able to do hand corrections to the audio, but it won't sound
quite as good overall but this is an option and they still are
intelligible.

Thanks,

Brandon

On 9/7/17, Blake Roberts <beroberts at hughes.net> wrote:
> Josh, Your experience with Jake's Circum Reality Keynote voice explains why
> it made my screen reader crash a few minutes after I started using it
> months
> ago. Ulysses, The Keynote voice referred to is Jake's Circum Reality
> version
> of the Keynote Gold synthesizer. I believe Jake used his Braille Note
> notetaker which contains the Keynote voice and recorded thousands of words
> with it via Circum Reality software. I think the Keynote voice used in the
> recording is a card or chip within the Braille Note.
>
> Luis, I know that Cereproc offers a voice creation service for a fee. I
> contacted Cereproc a year or two ago asking about accessibility of the
> process. Specifically I wanted to know if creation of a Cereproc voice
> requires Flash. The answer was yes for setup of the headset which they ship
> after voice creator purchases the service. The rest of the process is
> apparently in HTML5. That's what I was told then. I chose not to purchase
> CereVoice service at that time because Flash requirement would prevent me
> from independently completing the process.  I don't know if Flash is still
> utilized in Cereproc's voice creation service (CereVoice). I have no idea
> about the voice creation process for making an Acapela or Cepstral voice.
>
> Blake
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:joshknnd1982 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 5:43 PM
> To: DECtalk; Luis Carlos González Moráles; Blake Roberts
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] voice creation
>
>
>
> last time i tried it the keynote sapi5 voice that he made is very very slow
> and unresponsive. that is just how the circumReality voices are. With NVDA
> its almost unuseable.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/7/2017 5:22 PM, Luis Carlos González Moráles wrote:
>
> Circum Reality. and If you didn't know, CereProc, Acapela Group, Cepstral,
> ETC. Have the capability to build your oune voice, but I don't know where
> we, I say I, can start.
>
> Ulysses Harmony Garcia via Dectalk escribió:
>
> Hi Blake,
> I didn't know there was a KeyNote voice for SAPI 5. How was this converted?
> What does CR stand for?
> -Ulysses
>
> On 9/7/2017 12:53 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>
> Yes, some of the Circum Reality voices sound good. It's also wonderful that
> Jake Gross made a SAPI keynote. I did not know that I could record myself
> saying a word for correct intonation. Is version of Circum Reality on
> Jake's
> site the most recent version? My only issue with CR on Jake's site is lack
> of uninstaller. Removing a installed CircumReality voice requires editing
> the registry. I had to do that when I had CR voice(s) on my computer some
> time ago. Editing the registry scares me because of the damage incorrectly
> editing registry entries can do to a computer. Is there a newer version of
> CR available which uninstalls a voice/ removes voice/CR registry keys?
>
> Blake
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
> From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
> Brandon Tyson
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 12:47 PM
> To: DECtalk
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] voice creation
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I wanted to touch on one point please:
>
>
>
> Even if they can’t do SAPI, and even though this wouldn’t be the same, I’m
> still quite happy with the now open-sourced CircumReality voice and think
> that they sound pretty good.
>
> What I particularly like about those is that even if they do have a
> mispronunciation, it’s giving you the possibility to change the way a
> particular word, or even whole phrases, sound through manual hand made
> recordings, I think, which would theoretically be used in conjunction with
> the synthesizer itself.
>
>
>
> Does this make sense?
>
>
>
> E.g. A user types in “Wow!” but they find the intonation is incorrect. It
> says “wow.” Instead, making it sound boring. So the user can go in and
> manually correct this to have it say “Wow!” correctly by making an
> individual recording for that.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
> From: Devin Prater <mailto:r.d.t.prater at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 8:56 AM
> To: DECtalk <mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] voice creation
>
>
>
> Yuly, GPU is the Graphics processing unit, and the CPU is the central
> processing unit.
>
> A neural net is is a way for computers to learn as a human does, through
> artificial intelligence.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 7:39 AM, Ulysses Harmony Garcia via Dectalk
> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>
> What is GPU, and how is that different from CPU? Also, how does neural
> networking work? Does the computer map out a brain on a series of
> coordinates the way it does when mapping out an MRI or 3D printing the
> model
> of the brain? I'm interested in knowing what programming languages,
> interpreter scripts, etc they use so that people in college and university
> labs who do neuroscientific work can build more neural networks to
> experiment on.
> I've read some sci-fi literature on how mind-uploading could work, but the
> problem is that it would be nearly impossible to calculate the exact number
> of neurones, neurotransmitters, synapses, and receptors, and which memories
> or part of identity they link up to. It would require a huge load of
> processing and a really high knowledge of map coordination in three
> dimensions to put a series of binary code in each region of how the brain
> would look like.
> -Ulysses
>
> On 9/7/2017 5:22 AM, Piotr Machacz wrote:
>
> I don’t think LyreBird will ever be able to make local voices, SAPI or
> otherwise. At least not in the near future. The way I understand it, their
> system uses a massive GPU cluster to run a neural net that gets trained on
> people’s voices (this is why if you make enough recordings it learns to
> mimic you so well). It literally makes connections and figures out patterns
> like a human brain. If you were to run something like this on a single home
> computer, even one with a beefy CPU or preferably a good high end GPU, I
> imagine it would take days to train, and then minutes if not a few hours to
> generate 1 clip of speech. That being said, neural nets are getting more
> and
> more common and are started to be used on a small scale on computers or
> phones, and some companies like Microsoft or Google are developing
> processor
> chips designed specifically for neural nets. So maybe you’ll see this
> become
> an offline technology in a few years. For now, we know that lyrebird wants
> to make an API available for this technology, so you can expect apps and
> websites to make use of it (IE a chatting website might let you enter your
> voice fingerprint and then you can talk to other people by typing text and
> getting your actual voice out, or perhaps getting news or weather spoken to
> you with your own voice)
>
>
>
> On 7 Sep 2017, at 11:13, Jayson Smith <jaybird at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't know of any other voice creation program which can make a SAPI
> voice. If you still have the original recordings, and you still own the
> copyright in and to them I.E. you didn't sign some sort of agreement giving
> all your rights to Innoetics, you should in theory be able to use such a
> service if one were to exist at some point in the future. You might try
> contacting Lyrebird and explaining your situation, see what they say.
>
> Sorry I can't be of more help,
>
> Jayson
>
> On 9/6/2017 3:03 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>> Lyrebird sounds interesting. I notice that in FAQ Lyrebird says they
>
>> can create a higher-quality voice if I have a lot of recordings but
>
>> this is not available in the current beta. On a related topic, let me
>
>> put all my cards on the table. Before Innoetics was acquired by
>
>> Samsung, I was creating a SAPI of myself with help from a innoetics
>
>> founder. In July 2017 around the time of Samsung's acquisition of the
>
>> company, the Innoetics founder told me he would send me a SAPI of my
>
>> voice using the thousands of sentences I recorded. Due to no SAPI
>
>> received after almost 2 months from that promise, I'm thinking the
>
>> Innoetics founder  whom I won't specify on-list might not be able to
>
>> create Blake Sapi. I'm not trying to sound critical of the indivudal.
>
>> I'm just accepting the possibility that aforementioned promise might
>
>> not be fulfilled. Does anyone know of a voice creation program which
>
>> can create a SAPI from already recorded sentence wave files? I spent
>
>> many hours and months recording over a thousand  sentences for the
>
>> aforementioned Innoetics Blake Sapi. I did the recording at no
>
>> financial cost for personal/friends use. I don't want my time/effort
>
>> to be wasted. Blake
>
>>
>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Dectalk
>
>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Jayson Smith
>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 12:20 PM To: DECtalk Discussions
>
>> Subject: [DECtalk] Lyrebird TTS, a demo is finally here!
>
>>
>
>> Hi all,
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> A few months ago, I heard about Lyrebird, a future project which
>
>> would allow anyone to create a synthetic clone of their own voice.
>
>> Last night I found out that it's finally here, in an early beta form.
>
>> If you go to http://lyrebird.ai <http://lyrebird.ai/>  and create an
> account, you can then
>
>> record a minimum of thirty sentences they specify, the more you
>
>> record the better, and then create your digital voice. Then you can
>
>> have it speak any text you choose. I've played with it, and while the
>
>> quality isn't the best, it does pretty accurately capture my voice,
>
>> as well as most of the other people I know of who have created
>
>> voices. Check it out!
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Jayson
>
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