[DECtalk] DECTalk 5 (Sapi) Thank you, and please help

Mohamed malhajamy at gmail.com
Sun Jul 19 08:44:25 EDT 2015


And Fonix talk is the same synthesizer that is used in the TI84+ 
calculators. I've played with the speak window, and Fonix talk can sing 
as well. However there are so many phoneme changes that code which 
worked in DECtalk 4.x does not work in Fonix talk.

On 07/19/15 08:39 AM, Blake Roberts via Dectalk wrote:
>
> I'm wondering the same thing. When a technology such as Dectalk is no 
> longer being developed, does that mean it will eventually become 
> public domain in copyright terms after a period of years? It is my 
> understanding that Fonix lost interest in Dectalk because they 
> developed Fonixtalk, but I expect they still owned the Dectalk 
> copyright at the time of their bankrupcy. Fonixtalk, based in part on 
> Dectalk, was still being marketed as of 2013. See this article:
>
> http://www.orbitresearch.com/news_details.php?id=9
>
> *Apparently, according to the article,  Fonixtalk was acquired by a 
> company called SpeechFX. However, I have no idea if that company also 
> owns the rights to Dectalk.*
>
> *Blake*
>
> **
>
> *From:*Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] *On Behalf 
> Of *Mohamed via Dectalk
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2015 6:59 AM
> *To:* DECtalk
> *Cc:* Mohamed
> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5 (Sapi) Thank you, and please help
>
> Does Fonix still own the rights to DECtalk technology? Or is it some 
> other company?
>
> On 07/18/15 09:02 PM, Blake Roberts via Dectalk wrote:
>
>> Just to clarify some things: The Flame of Hope is owned by a former 
>> member of this list, Snoopi Botten. While his site does offer 
>> valuable Dectalk resources including songs, there is no affiliation 
>> with bluegrasspals. On one section of the site, he tells people how 
>> to join this list because there is such a wide breadth/depth of 
>> Dectalk knowledge on here. The only reason Snoopi left this list some 
>> months ago is because emails kept bouncing. This resulted in him 
>> having to be unsubscribed even though he did not want to do so.
>>
>> The Dectalk SAPI referred to is one which Snoopi and I obtained from 
>> someone when we were working on Enable Rehab's Dectalk project some 
>> years ago. I participated voluntarily. Although the SAPI calls itself 
>> 5.0, it really uses Dectalk version 4.63. I originally provided the 
>> SAPI to this list in 2011 as something for members to play with while 
>> Enable Rehab was developing their own Dectalk product.
>>
>> Enable's final product ultimately used a completely different version 
>> of Dectalk altogether. By that time Snoopi and I were no longer 
>> associated with the company. We eventually chose to create our own 
>> zip file with the SAPI we had received and Dectalk utilities acquired 
>> by Enable. The reason for our own zip file I don't need to go into at 
>> present. This was done so that the public can have a free SAPI 
>> version of Dectalk and utilities to use. The file called 
>> "instructions for Dectalk Reader 1" was primarily written by myself 
>> to help people understand what everything included did or didn't do. 
>> Again, the instruction file was created as a public service.
>>
>> As for the SAPI limitations, I've known for years that it can only 
>> sing via an application called TTS App and only then to a limited 
>> extent. As for the other limitations you mention, I did not know 
>> about them. The Dectalk SAPI being referenced was developed by Fonix. 
>> It was provided to myself and Snoopi years ago by someone on 
>> condition of anonymousness. So, even if Fonix had not gone bankrupt a 
>> year or so ago, contacting them about fixing the Dectalk 4.63 SAPI 
>> would serve no purpose. Snoopi and I have always thought of the 4.63 
>> SAPI as a beta because of the limited singing ability. Apparently 
>> Beta is still an apt term. Since the Dectalk speak windows can sing 
>> and accept commands like define voice, I suggest using one of those 
>> such as 4.40 or 4.3.
>>
>> My apologies for such a long email. It is lengthy because in my mind 
>> sufficient explanation is warranted. This self-created term paper is 
>> now complete.
>>
>> Blake
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] *On Behalf 
>> Of *Johnathan Velick via Dectalk
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:56 PM
>> *To:* DECtalk
>> *Cc:* Johnathan Velick
>> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5 (Sapi) Thank you, and please help
>>
>> Really? I had assumed Bluegrasspals was affiliated with Flameofhope. 
>> At any rate, the zip directory is here. 
>> <http://theflameofhope.co/dectalkreader1/>
>>
>> It does not use the actual DECTalk software but through the folder 
>> "sapi" there is a .msi download so that the Text To Speech 
>> Application may work with the DECTalk Voices installed, and afaik it 
>> uses a dictionary file to work with phonemes, as the phonetic code as 
>> I mentioned before works but not design voice or other voice commands 
>> (as in the ones used to change between the voice presets Paul, Betty, 
>> Harry, Rita, etc).
>>
>> I'm assuming the entire source code is inside these files but I don't 
>> know how to access them to make them work with the TTSA software.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Blake Roberts via Dectalk 
>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com <mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Johnathan, I am also wondering where you obtained Dectalk 5.0. As far 
>> as I know it isn't on the Internet. Since this list does not have its 
>> own web site for downloading files, I'm not sure where you obtained it.
>>
>> Blake
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com 
>> <mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mohamed 
>> via Dectalk
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 18, 2015 6:34 PM
>> *To:* DECtalk
>> *Cc:* Mohamed
>> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5 (Sapi) Thank you, and please help
>>
>> Hmm? Where is that located? I'd be interested in trying it.
>>
>> On 07/18/15 05:26 PM, Johnathan Velick via Dectalk wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I've been a fan of DECTalk ever since I've heard of it and it 
>>> was only today that I found version 5 from you guys, which I prefer 
>>> over the 4.40 demo I had been using before. The standard text editor 
>>> options really help too.
>>>
>>> But I've noticed that while the phonemes and singing work, the 
>>> tones, dials, design voice and other advanced options don't work 
>>> within the TTS app like they did in the 4.40 program. This is 
>>> bothersome because I've dug through the files and I found a guide 
>>> that lists these features and how to access them in the program, but 
>>> to no avail. May I have installed the package wrong? The app didn't 
>>> initially come with the DECTalk voices or dictionary files but they 
>>> were downloadable within a folder in the zip from your website.
>>>
>>> It would also help if I could resize the application window and use 
>>> the enter key (without ctrl) to automatically read the text field. 
>>> And the DECTalk US voices are at the bottom of the drop-down and I 
>>> have to select it each time because that's how it runs by default, 
>>> which is also irritating.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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