[DECtalk] List UP?
Alex H.
linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Thu Sep 1 21:10:51 EDT 2011
Hi Ed,
I guess to summarize the response:
1. The voices are great for a rough draft, and are usable.
2. People seem to not like some of the voices' default pitches and
roughness, etc. This can be changed later in the process if needed I
assume.
3. The female voices have a strange accent saying words with a long I sound.
Alex
On 9/1/11, ebruckert Bruckert <edbruckert at gmail.com> wrote:
> Let me toss the problem back at you guys to see if we can get some
> consensus, the issues you address are the same ones that caused us to go
> around in circles on these voices that's why I truly don't know what a best
> tuning is because we could never decide so I need some kind of consensus,
> because these voices were always being tweaked to try and make them better
> never succeeded
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Raymond Grote
> <musicalman1 at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> **
>> Hi guys,
>> Sorry for being a bit late on replying, Outlook express was having issues.
>> Some of the voices are very good, but the Betty voice in particular sounds
>> way too low really is, and some of the others do too. And I don't quite
>> like
>> Dennis and some of the others because they're too breathy. But, if we can
>> change peramitors in the traditional manner, then that will compensate for
>> it a bit.
>> Also as was said the i sound in the female voices is a bit strange, and
>> some words with t sounds, sound a bit off too. The best way to describe
>> it,
>> is you hear the t sound, then an h sound, then the rest of the word.
>> Again for a test it is certainly awesome, hopefully it can be improved and
>> have no issues! I'm very sure it will meet everyone's criteria for an
>> awesome Sapi Dectalk in the end.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Blake Roberts <beroberts at hughes.net>
>> *To:* 'DECtalk Discussions' <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:33 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] List UP?
>>
>> I agree with Jake about altering the default pitch. Specifically, I think
>> the voices could benefit from a somewhat lower default pitch. With that
>> said, I'm pretty happy with the voices.
>> Blake
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com [mailto:
>> dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] *On Behalf Of *Jake McMahan
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:32 PM
>> *To:* DECtalk Discussions
>> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] List UP?
>>
>> Ed, nice. I think it is working out. As I said in a previous email,
>> intonation can be modified by the user with a set of inline parameters,
>> and
>> so can pitch. That's probably the only thing I would alter, for me at
>> least. But seriously, you're doing great man.
>>
>> *From:* ebruckert Bruckert <edbruckert at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:50 PM
>> *To:* DECtalk Discussions <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] List UP?
>>
>> no hints just feedback please.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The Val voice is still present in 4.3, so it's probably still there to
>>> this
>>> day.
>>> Jayson
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "ebruckert Bruckert" <edbruckert at gmail.com>
>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] List UP?
>>>
>>>
>>> > Such it does never created for DECtalk, however I could certainly aid
>>> > someone in advising them on how to make it easier. For this purpose a
>>> > special voice was created in DECtalk called variable valve(Dennis Klatt
>>> > liked alliteration). Since I am a totally incompetent Windows
>>> programmer
>>> > I
>>> > can't do it, but I will have to look in the code to see if variable
>>> valve
>>> > still exists but it could be done anyway.
>>> > As I said the source code for the two apps I mentioned are available to
>>> > anyone I haven't done anything with them because of the above mentioned
>>> > reason. The real issue would be to develop an automatic gain tuner,
>>> > which which again could be done with some help, just to make the whole
>>> > process easier but it certainly can and has been done purely manually.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Jitendra Kumar
>>> > <jeet.invincible at gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> someone already posted that a new speak window can be created,Hello
>>> >> friends, I also have a suggestion too, if you remember, many of you
>>> >> perhaps: that flextalk had an app called perhaps voice tool, that we
>>> >> used to create new voices, however I never able to make it sing, but
>>> >> such an app should also ship with DECTalk, so that we can create new
>>> >> voices with more or less inflection and pitch settings, and perhaps
>>> >> this option can be made available in the newer speak window itself,
>>> >> and when we create new voices, DECTalk should register the voice so
>>> >> each sapi5 app can make use of it. Thank you.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 8/30/11, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Hi,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > No, but they just have a tendency to mess with the punctuation and
>>> >> > sort of commandeer it to their will, not taking into account that
>>> >> > somebody might have a clever synth like DECtalk. Anyways, I hear ya
>>> on
>>> >> > the abreviation issue. My iPod says 25 millibars instead of 25 MB
>>> >> > for
>>> >> > filesizes. Or how about Windows 98 Southeast? Hahah!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Alex
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 8/29/11, Brent Harding <bharding at doorpi.net> wrote:
>>> >> >> I know, the automatic expansion of abbreviations drives a person up
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> wall
>>> >> >> trying to do critical things like medical transcription. I was
>>> >> >> listening
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> Jonathan Mosen do a demo of some self-voicing daisy editing app
>>> >> >> that
>>> >> >> FS
>>> >> >> bundles with the Plextalk, and kid me not, files sizes are measured
>>> in
>>> >> >> kerobytes. Is that what Microsoft does when you put kb next to a
>>> >> >> number?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> >> >> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:45 PM
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] List UP?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Hi,
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Just to clarify my earlier post, life would be great if Microsoft
>>> >> >>> didn't feel the need to muck about with how SAPI5 handles
>>> punctuation
>>> >> >>> and I'd love a singing sapi. The reality and how MS has done this
>>> >> >>> really makes it a royal pain, at least as far as I can tell with
>>> >> >>> little to no programming knowledge and just reading the
>>> documentation
>>> >> >>> on how this stuff works. The great thing if we were to have a
>>> modern
>>> >> >>> speak window for singing and skits and the SAPI for scren reading
>>> and
>>> >> >>> other text to speech programs is that it'll still be easy to
>>> >> >>> export
>>> >> >>> songs and skits as wave files with minimal effort and ensure that
>>> >> >>> this
>>> >> >>> program will run in Windows operating systems in the future.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Thanks Ed for all the tweaking and coding that has to go into a
>>> >> >>> project like this. It's much appreciated. Things are looking up.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Aelx
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On 8/29/11, Jake McMahan <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> To me, I think the whole dad gum thing is extremely impressive
>>> >> >>>> and
>>> >> it's
>>> >> >>>> coming along. I am looking forward to getting my hands on this
>>> >> >>>> thing
>>> >> >>>> when
>>> >> >>>> it is available, and using it in my DSpeech scripts and much
>>> >> >>>> more.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> From: ebruckert Bruckert
>>> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 6:09 PM
>>> >> >>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] List UP?
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Okay sounds like you've done a thorough job. But I have two
>>> programs
>>> >> say
>>> >> >>>> the
>>> >> >>>> command line and batch mode program and speak which are both
>>> freely
>>> >> >>>> distributable in including source code and could certainly be
>>> >> >>>> included
>>> >> >>>> in
>>> >> >>>> any distribution.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Alex H. <
>>> linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Hi Ed,
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> I've done some digging about how to make the SAPI5 version of
>>> >> >>>> DT
>>> >> sing.
>>> >> >>>> It won't be easy to do this I'm afraid. Too many variables
>>> >> >>>> involved,
>>> >> >>>> and no program except ttsapp.exe will pipe the exact string you
>>> >> >>>> send
>>> >> >>>> to it to the SAPI5 engine. That's only part of the issue
>>> >> >>>> though.
>>> >> >>>> Firstly, SAPI5, as I thought, uses some low level punctuation
>>> >> >>>> filtering that comes even lower in the stack than things like
>>> text
>>> >> to
>>> >> >>>> MP3 programs, like Verbose or TextAloud, etc. Basically, the
>>> text
>>> >> >>>> to
>>> >> >>>> speech program (like textAloud) gets the text and adds its own
>>> >> >>>> punctuation rules to the text and sends this to SAPI, and SAPI
>>> >> >>>> does
>>> >> >>>> its own filtering/changing of the text string, so the original
>>> >> >>>> text
>>> >> >>>> gets lost early on in the chain. There's not any real easy way
>>> >> around
>>> >> >>>> this I'm afraid, after a good few hours reading MSDN articles
>>> and
>>> >> what
>>> >> >>>> not. Even when talking about changing text to be pronounced
>>> better
>>> >> (we
>>> >> >>>> could use this to make DT sing), SAPI unfortunately makes its
>>> own
>>> >> >>>> rules of phonemic definitions when you specify the proper tags
>>> >> >>>> [3].
>>> >> >>>> This basically means that it tries a one-size-fits-all approach
>>> >> >>>> and
>>> >> >>>> some synths that are SAPI compliant still won't speak the text
>>> as
>>> >> the
>>> >> >>>> SAPI phonemic string intends. In short, this would be a
>>> nightmare
>>> >> >>>> to
>>> >> >>>> implement using SAPI5. At least the way I see it.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> I'm thinking for the ease of use factor for singers, maybe the
>>> >> >>>> best
>>> >> >>>> idea is a SAPI dectalk installable synth that works wiht screen
>>> >> >>>> readers, and then a speak window bundled wiht it for singing.
>>> That
>>> >> >>>> way, nobody is messing with sapi protocols.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Sources:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> [1]
>>> >> >>>>
>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms719574%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> [2]
>>> >> >>>>
>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms717252%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> [3]
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >>
>>> http://elearningtech.blogspot.com/2010/10/using-punctuation-and-mark-up-language.html
>>> >> >>>> [4]
>>> >> >>>>
>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms723638%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Sorry for the hugely complex post, but I felt it was needed to
>>> >> explain
>>> >> >>>> further. As always, great work and i look forward to more
>>> testing.
>>> >> >>>> Alex
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> On 8/29/11, jake mcmahan <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> > On 8/29/2011 3:07 PM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> These are all generated by just plopping the text into
>>> >> >>>> speak,
>>> >> since
>>> >> >>>> >> the scaling and interaction of these things has always
>>> >> >>>> varied
>>> >> >>>> slightly
>>> >> >>>> >> the the goal now is to try to adjust things the detailed
>>> stuff
>>> >> like
>>> >> >>>> >> little overloads for the last step.
>>> >> >>>> >> I'm not sure if I reset Paul or left them at the custom
>>> >> >>>> voice
>>> >> when
>>> >> >>>> I
>>> >> >>>> >> did the weather, so I'll resend the weather being sure it's
>>> >> regular
>>> >> >>>> >> Paul, but in fact if everybody likes the style we can modify
>>> >> those
>>> >> >>>> >> base parameters, as I already know that the pitch scaling is
>>> >> >>>> slightly
>>> >> >>>> >> different so will probably have to change the pitch things
>>> but
>>> >> >>>> that's
>>> >> >>>> >> the purpose of tweaking. On some of the voices that I fooled
>>> >> around
>>> >> >>>> >> was so much I really don't have a feel for what's better or
>>> >> worse.
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Alex H. <
>>> >> linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> <mailto:linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> Hi,
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> First, excellent job! The custom Paul voice in the
>>> weather
>>> >> file
>>> >> >>>> is
>>> >> >>>> >> great. It has a lot of inflection and sounds like 4.4,
>>> >> >>>> which
>>> >> is
>>> >> >>>> pretty
>>> >> >>>> >> impressive. The test.wav is strange though. It's very
>>> buzzy
>>> >> and
>>> >> >>>> hard
>>> >> >>>> >> to understand. Just to clarify, for now, are we just
>>> >> >>>> testing
>>> >> >>>> the
>>> >> >>>> Paul
>>> >> >>>> >> voice?
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> The weather sample seems to be very articulate and
>>> precise.
>>> >> It
>>> >> >>>> doesn't
>>> >> >>>> >> have any of that slurring of old versions on certain
>>> words.
>>> >> >>>> This
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> is
>>> >> >>>> >> great.
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> Just to hear the sample at a higher rate of speed, can
>>> you
>>> >> >>>> do
>>> >> >>>> the
>>> >> >>>> same
>>> >> >>>> >> text at about 350 wpm to see how it stands up?
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> I didn't hear any of the soft tones at the end of
>>> >> >>>> sentences,
>>> >> >>>> and
>>> >> >>>> even
>>> >> >>>> >> ran the file and amplified silences, and it's about 48
>>> >> >>>> dB
>>> >> below
>>> >> >>>> >> normal, so it's pretty quiet as it is without the code
>>> >> >>>> to
>>> >> >>>> squash
>>> >> >>>> the
>>> >> >>>> >> humming.
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> Alex
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> On 8/29/11, ebruckert Bruckert <edbruckert at gmail.com
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> <mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> > First some baseline testing stuff. Do not over test it
>>> in
>>> >> >>>> other
>>> >> >>>> >> words in the
>>> >> >>>> >> > beginning this is a rough cut so if we get into too
>>> many
>>> >> >>>> details
>>> >> >>>> >> or changes
>>> >> >>>> >> > it will just all become mud. We should only make a few
>>> >> >>>> changes
>>> >> >>>> >> at a time,
>>> >> >>>> >> > the other problem may become differences of opinion
>>> >> >>>> especially
>>> >> >>>> >> with some of
>>> >> >>>> >> > the voices which were never very stable because we
>>> never
>>> >> >>>> really
>>> >> >>>> >> liked
>>> >> >>>> >> > exactly what we had. This is an old version of DECtalk
>>> so
>>> >> >>>> >> occasionally you
>>> >> >>>> >> > will hear little homes at the end of things during
>>> >> >>>> what
>>> >> >>>> should
>>> >> >>>> >> be silence.
>>> >> >>>> >> > This is a mathematical problem called a limit cycle
>>> when
>>> >> >>>> we're
>>> >> >>>> >> finished I'll
>>> >> >>>> >> > add the new code I developed to squelch it. It took us
>>> >> years
>>> >> >>>> to
>>> >> >>>> >> figure out a
>>> >> >>>> >> > way to get rid of it perceptually we never could get
>>> rid
>>> >> >>>> of
>>> >> >>>> it
>>> >> >>>> >> > mathematically. Lastly I had to change the gain of
>>> >> >>>> voicing
>>> >> on
>>> >> >>>> >> the modified
>>> >> >>>> >> > voice that was sent without going into a long
>>> explanation
>>> >> >>>> which
>>> >> >>>> >> I can later
>>> >> >>>> >> > if people want the gains of the cascade vocal track
>>> have
>>> >> >>>> never
>>> >> >>>> >> ever been
>>> >> >>>> >> > constant it's a mathematical issue where you're
>>> >> >>>> constantly
>>> >> >>>> >> trying to adjust
>>> >> >>>> >> > them between quantization and overload and we've never
>>> >> >>>> been
>>> >> >>>> able
>>> >> >>>> to
>>> >> >>>> >> > guarantee them.
>>> >> >>>> >> > Lastly people can think about singing. The problem is
>>> >> >>>> that
>>> >> >>>> most
>>> >> >>>> SAPI
>>> >> >>>> >> > applications strip stuff out so I'm looking for
>>> >> >>>> suggestions
>>> >> >>>> of
>>> >> >>>> >> how we could
>>> >> >>>> >> > fool it and tell DECtalk that it was supposed to go
>>> into
>>> >> >>>> >> phonemic mode so it
>>> >> >>>> >> > can sing. I don't know what can and cannot get
>>> >> >>>> through
>>> >> >>>> the
>>> >> >>>> various
>>> >> >>>> >> > applications and while
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> > Again don't put too much effort in two critical
>>> listening
>>> >> at
>>> >> >>>> >> this stage as
>>> >> >>>> >> > were not fine-tuning it just training 3n where targets
>>> >> >>>> are
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:06 PM, jake mcmahan
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com <mailto:mcmahan.jake at gmail.com
>>> >> >>wrote:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >> On 8/29/2011 11:52 AM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> Hello everyone the good news is I had a generator the
>>> >> >>>> bad
>>> >> >>>> news
>>> >> >>>> >> is I had to
>>> >> >>>> >> >> use it. I'm having trouble with the 2008 free edition
>>> of
>>> >> >>>> visual
>>> >> >>>> >> C I can't
>>> >> >>>> >> >> run the debugger. But before I uninstall and
>>> >> >>>> reinstall
>>> >> >>>> it
>>> >> I
>>> >> >>>> >> want to get
>>> >> >>>> >> >> this
>>> >> >>>> >> >> baseline out but it's a little bit painful because I
>>> >> >>>> can't
>>> >> >>>> run
>>> >> >>>> the
>>> >> >>>> >> >> debugger
>>> >> >>>> >> >> so I'm doing it by an archaic method. So it'll be out
>>> >> >>>> sometime
>>> >> >>>> >> today and
>>> >> >>>> >> >> then I'll reload visual C.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 4:11 PM, jake mcmahan
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com
>>> >> >>>> <mailto:mcmahan.jake at gmail.com>>wrote:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> On 8/28/2011 11:40 AM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> Ed K okay I'm ready. I have a base tuning of all the
>>> >> voices.
>>> >> >>>> So
>>> >> >>>> >> send me
>>> >> >>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >>>> >> >> various files to test with and we will try and get
>>> some
>>> >> >>>> >> agreement on the
>>> >> >>>> >> >> voices.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:32 AM, ebruckert Bruckert
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> <edbruckert at gmail.com <mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> I was visiting my grandson, back to woek today.....
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Alex H.
>>> >> >>>> >> >> <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> <mailto:linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>>wrote:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> Hi,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> Your message came through. DECTalk is alive and
>>> singing.
>>> >> :D
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> Alex
>>> >> >>>> >> >> On 8/20/2011 11:22 PM, Doris and Chris wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >> > I have not seen any messages from this list in over
>>> a
>>> >> >>>> week.
>>> >> >>>> >> So I was
>>> >> >>>> >> >> > wondering if the list was down or if there is a
>>> >> >>>> problem
>>> >> at
>>> >> >>>> my
>>> >> >>>> >> end or
>>> >> >>>> >> >> > with my subscription.
>>> >> >>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >> > Cheers,
>>> >> >>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >> > Doris
>>> >> >>>> >> >> >
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>>> >> >>>> >> >> take this, for example. This is a weather file.
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