[DECtalk] Modifying DECtalk (was User dictionaries forSpeakwindows)

Wed May 18 19:23:13 EDT 2011

Yes, the voice is determined by only the speaker parameterss all of which
are accessible.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have another question having to do with the voices. Are the voices
> defined
> entirely by their parameters or is there some internal model for each
> voice?
> What I'm getting at is, for instance, let's say you started with the Paul
> voice. Could you, after making lots of adjustments, end up with what was
> exactly the same as the Betty voice, even though you'd never changed from
> Paul? Or does each voice have some internal model, waveform, etc. that
> makes
> it unique?
> Thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Modifying DECtalk (was User dictionaries
> forSpeakwindows)
>
>
> Dennis was not one to show off. He was interested in how the voice
> parameters he has defined could be used to vary voice quality. For
> instance, was intelligibility decreased with a whispered voice? Humans
> certainly understand each other when they whisper, and whispering is
> appropriate in some situations. Dennis was a true scientist and wanted
> to understand everything about synthetic voice.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just curious, how were the other voices named? What is this thing with
> > every
> > synthesizer that supports this feature including a whisper voice? Is it
> > seen
> > as actually useful, or just the developers showing off?
> > Jayson
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ebruckert Bruckert" <edbruckert at gmail.com>
> > To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Modifying DECtalk (was User dictionaries for
> > Speakwindows)
> >
> >
> >> The voices were named by Dennis. Perfect Paul was modeled after Dennis
> >> his
> >> voice before he got cancer and Dr. Dennis was modeled after his voice
> >> after
> >> he got cancer. The issue of just using one voice is a process issue it's
> >> always existed would DECtalk we never tuned old games to last step
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Changed the subject on this one.
> >>>
> >>> Ed, you were talking about focusing on the Paul voice for now. I think
> >>> that's a good move. In my opinion, whoever gave Paul his name got it
> >>> right.
> >>> He's pretty much the perfect DECtalk voice, I think. That having been
> >>> said,
> >>> I think the following goes without saying. As I see it, all nine
> factory
> >>> voices should be tuned at least to an extent where they are perfectly
> >>> understandable. I was going to say they should be pleasant to listen
> to,
> >>> but
> >>> some people might not think certain voices would be pleasant to listen
> >>> to
> >>> for a long time. What this basically means is, no factory voice should
> >>> produce overload squawks or other undesirable noises when synthesizing
> >>> any
> >>> reasonable text. Obviously once people get into messing with the
> >>> parameters
> >>> and creating their own voices, they're asking for it.
> >>> Jayson
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "ebruckert Bruckert" <edbruckert at gmail.com>
> >>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 12:52 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] User dictionaries for Speak windows
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > I'm busy today but I will send versions of the user Dic. T
> >>> > On in all honesty I can't remember if there were different versions,
> >>> > but
> >>> > there certainly weren't many.
> >>> > One of the main differences in the know of version was I tuned the
> >>> > frication
> >>> > or high-frequency noise is stronger because of signal loss going to
> >>> > the
> >>> > transmitters through regular telephone lines. I am slowly working on
> a
> >>> new
> >>> > version I want your feedback but understand this is a stepwise
> process
> >>> > so
> >>> > I
> >>> > need feedback on both what you like and what you don't like. Attached
> >>> > is
> >>> a
> >>> > very short piece of Paul. The way the gains of the vocal track have
> to
> >>> > be
> >>> > tuned I'm only going to focus on Paul or perhaps a different voice if
> >>> > you'd
> >>> > prefer until we get closer to what we want. I'm almost afraid to
> >>> > mention
> >>> > something, but I have archived the last research DECtalk version that
> >>> > Dennis
> >>> > was working on when he died, I may try to get it running obviously it
> >>> > was
> >>> > never finished. In that regard does anybody know of a utility that
> can
> >>> > convert an old 16 bit sound file into a wave file?
> >>> >
> >>> > Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Hi,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I downloaded that but it doesn't seem to work for the Speak43
> window.
> >>> >> I
> >>> >> assume that means each version of DECtalk has its own dictionary
> >>> >> format.
> >>> >> To
> >>> >> me, that seems a bit weird and breaks forward and backward
> >>> compatibility.
> >>> >> But whatever.
> >>> >> Jayson
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> >> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
> >>> >> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >>> >> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 6:22 PM
> >>> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] User dictionaries for Speak windows
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > Hi Jayson,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I know there's a utility to make user dictionaries for the DECTalk
> >>> >> > USB, and you can download the files on Access Solutions' website.
> I
> >>> >> > don't know if they'd work on the demo Speak windows though.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Alex
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On 5/15/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> Hi,
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Does anyone know how to create/generate/compile user dictionaries
> >>> >> >> for
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >> Speak windows? I know back in the days of the DECtalk PC, it
> >>> >> >> shipped
> >>> >> with
> >>> >> >> software to take a properly-formatted text file and compile it
> >>> >> >> into
> >>> >> >> a
> >>> >> >> binary
> >>> >> >> dictionary file. I still have one of those files, and it doesn't
> >>> >> >> work
> >>> >> >> as
> >>> >> >> a
> >>> >> >> user dictionary in Speak43. Are there tools out there to generate
> >>> user
> >>> >> >> dictionaries, or are they pretty much just internal tools which
> >>> should
> >>> >> >> have
> >>> >> >> been distributed but weren't? Snoopi, Ed, Corine, can anyone help
> >>> >> >> here?
> >>> >> >> Thanks.
> >>> >> >>
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