[DECtalk] question about sapi dectalk

Sat May 7 13:39:09 EDT 2011

i know. would be nice to hear a sample of dt5. 

On May 7, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Alex H. wrote:

> hi
> 
> think dt 5 is probably public domain from the past track record like
> 4.x, and i browsed old messages on freelists from when the dt list was
> hosted there, seems it was available to download at one time or
> another from Fonix. The only reason fonix might want to stop people
> from destributing the speak for 5  i can think of is to stop getting
> request to purchase a discontinued product, or they just want to be
> jerks which is more likely.
> 
> Personally, we should get 5 back int the public domain where it
> belongs.  I doubt that will hapen though. ah, corporations..
> 
> back to the sapi dectalk, it is junk. I hope I have stated that enough.
> 
> alex
> 
> On 5/7/11, Brandon Misch <bmisch2002 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> but maybe there is. who knows?
>> 
>> On May 7, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>> 
>>> Good point. You know, Dectalk 4.6.4 sounds a lot like Fonix Talk. I can't
>>> imagine there being much difference between that and Dectalk 5, and Fonix
>>> Talk.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:33 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] question about sapi dectalk
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> that would help. besides, why would fonix prohibit someone from making it
>>>> 
>>>> available if they don't even make dectalk anymore?
>>>> 
>>>> On May 7, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Snoopi has a copy of the Dectalk 5.0 speak window. However, Fonix
>>>>> prohibits
>>>>> him from making the Dectalk 5.0 speak window publicly available.
>>>>> Snoopi,
>>>>> I
>>>>> wonder if you could create a recording of the 5.0 speak window so people
>>>>> 
>>>>> on
>>>>> the list will know what it sounds like? I've never heard the 5.0 speak
>>>>> window.
>>>>> Blake
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:23 AM
>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] question about sapi dectalk
>>>>> 
>>>>> i think soneone on this list  has a copy of that and i wonder the same
>>>>> thing
>>>>> about that and this
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 7, 2011, at 12:55 AM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> lol speaking of Dectalk 5.0, I wonder if it sounds as bad as the sapi
>>>>>> dectalk does?  If somebody has dectalk 5.0, do you think you could
>>>>>> make a demo of it? That way some of us could have a little comparison.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Raymond Grote" <musicalman1 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:20 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] question about sapi dectalk
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Agreed. Guys, keep your speak windows for 4.3 and 4.4. You'll need
>>>>>>> them till the end of Windows. lol. Unless someone fixes this thing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 11:47 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] question about sapi dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I for one will not buy this. if it doesnt have ability to sing and
>>>>>>>> the inline commands, it's not dectalk.
>>>>>>>> If it clips at the defaults for other voices, it is broken code.
>>>>>>>> If onevoice is included because the rest are too clippy and crappy
>>>>>>>> sounding, it isn't worth a cent to me. Dectalk is all about singing
>>>>>>>> and customization. with this horrible ghost of horro, it's just a
>>>>>>>> locked down slurring mess.  Btw, there's no way this is 4.3, maybe
>>>>>>>> 5.0 although I've never heard it, but far from anything classic
>>>>>>>> dectalk.
>>>>>>>> Heck, they got their versions so messed up they probably are using
>>>>>>>> fonix talk or something!!
>>>>>>>> ~ I HAVE LOST HOPE.
>>>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 5/6/11, johnnybrl at gmail.com <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Well, if we only get the Paul voice only, I guess I can live with
>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>> It would have been cool to make it sing and do funny things. but o
>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> At least we have the DT 4.3 demo to play with and when the sapi
>>>>>>>>> Dectalk comes out, we could just use it with Jaws or Nvda.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 6:05 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] question about sapi dectalk
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> i know i will still buy it. at least it will sell a little because
>>>>>>>>>> the voice it does come with doesn't have any of these bad
>>>>>>>>>> qualities.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On May 6, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, an attempt at using what we got left. Actually I like that
>>>>>>>>>>> plan, at least I like it better than releasing the whole thing. I
>>>>>>>>>>> still don't see it breaking any grounds. Sure it's a Sapi dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>> but it could've been so, so much bettter!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <beroberts at hughes.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:45 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] question about sapi dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, Here's the latest news update about SAPI Dectalk's release.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Two things were decided  by the Dectalk SAPI powers that be.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. No speak window will be included.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. There is only one voice, Paul.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, it is my understanding that SAPI Dectalk now costs $19.95.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Brandon
>>>>>>>>>>>> Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 3:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] question about sapi dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> i know it odes. haven't heard any news on it since last night.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 6, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, who really cares if it'll work or not the synth sucks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just sayin'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/11, Brandon Misch <bmisch2002 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe hope this thing will even work is it this bad when using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal applications or just when running the speak window?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 6, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They will, I believe, but I don't think they come with it. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think you have to somehow obtain them yourself if you want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, I only have XP so I can only say what I believe I heard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they truly won't work because of some compatibility issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 1:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] question about sapi dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i see. figured i would ask since certain voices won't work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on vista and higher. an example of this is the older sapi5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voices from Microsoft. Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marry and sam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 6, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should run on anything from Windows 2000 to 7 since they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all have SAPI5.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/11, Brandon Misch <bmisch2002 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one thing i never found out about is will this work in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or vista?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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