[DECtalk] Any news?

Brandon Misch bmisch2002 at gmail.com
Thu May 5 23:09:16 EDT 2011


ok. 

On May 5, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Alex H. wrote:

> Let's see if we can make crappy songs with this! Be back in a bit,
> with some out of tune garbage!! :)
> 
> 
> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> It knows its time is up. Lol.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> 
>> 
>>> Lol! Tried that, yep, it's a E-flat then drops to a C with a little sigh.
>>> 
>>> It's tired of sounding like crap so it sighs lol
>>> 
>>> Alex
>>> 
>>> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> And, I was able to make rather amusing sounds by putting one note in for
>>>> singing. I put in a low c, and instead of being a low c, it was like a
>>>> sigh
>>>> of satisfaction. It started at an e, went down to a d, then got breathy
>>>> and
>>>> ended. I can clarify if needed. Maybe post a sample and the code I used.
>>>> But
>>>> it was funny.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:52 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I was also under the impression that the testers were supposed to give
>>>>> feedback about the project and so on, but when they did, they got
>>>>> nothing but snide remarks that it's the same, "you don't know what
>>>>> you're talking about," etc. That sort of thing is just not cool,
>>>>> seeing as you're supposed to sell this! I hope nobody buys this just
>>>>> to proove the point that this is just not even close to being ready
>>>>> for any type of release!
>>>>> 
>>>>> But I suppose, at this rate we're just screaming at the wind and
>>>>> nothing will change.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alex
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm pretty sure it will. The least we can do is not buy it and
>>>>>> discourage
>>>>>> others from using it, unless they decide to make a change. I am hoping
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> will, but I'm very sure they won't.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>  From: Brandon Misch
>>>>>>  To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:22 PM
>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  sounds like it's going to be released no matter what and even if some
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> this list want it scrapped it looks like this will be released.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On May 5, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    Bingo!  That's why it would be better to scrap it.  If released as
>>>>>> is,
>>>>>> it messes with a dead man's life long reputation.  I'm sick over this!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    In a message dated 5/5/2011 7:21:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>>>>>      What's worse is that, if this gets released in its current state,
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> good
>>>>>>      name DECtalk may have had will get tarnished. We all thought
>>>>>> Force
>>>>>> did
>>>>>>      horrible things with it. Now this! Someone who sees that a SAPI
>>>>>> version of
>>>>>>      DECtalk is available is likely to get excited if they know what
>>>>>> DECtalk is.
>>>>>>      When they put down their bucks to actually buy the thing, I hate
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> even
>>>>>>      think what the reactions will be. This is ridiculous, and an
>>>>>> insult
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>      Dennis Klatt.
>>>>>>      Someone who just wants a SAPI synth who has no idea what DECtalk
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> might
>>>>>>      find the Paul voice acceptable. It sounds like an old guy, which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>      certainly *not!* how it's supposed to sound. But I'd love to tell
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>      person to type [:nu] and see what happens after that.
>>>>>>      Jayson
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>      ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>      From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>      To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>      Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:14 PM
>>>>>>      Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I guess they're just tired of hearing that something's wrong?
>>>>>> Sounds
>>>>>>> like a give-up stratagy to me. Funny thing is, probably nobody
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> buy this unless they want to just use Paul or enjoy the sounds
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> clipping mutated DECTalks or something.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/5/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> What the? This product, as we've seen it, is absolutely
>>>>>> nowhere
>>>>>> near
>>>>>>>> ready
>>>>>>>> for release. It has several obvious bugs. One of the more
>>>>>> crippling
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> totally ridiculous in my opinion is that some of the factory
>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>> voices
>>>>>>>> are virtually unusable because their parameters are incorrect.
>>>>>> Factory
>>>>>>>> voices, mind you. Not something some user has messed around
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> screwed
>>>>>>>> up. Default voices, which are supposed to be usable. Sigh.
>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: <Dectalk at aol.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:54 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ugh!  I just got word.  The programmer won't  be allowed to
>>>>>> join
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> they're doing an "As is" release.   (SIGH)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I can't write any more.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 4:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I see.  hope that this project gets fixed soon.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed  at all.
>>>>>> It's
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>> else and I've been instructed not to post the  name.
>>>>>> Actually
>>>>>> I've been
>>>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>>>> to stop writing about the  programmer.  But just to be clear,
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>>>>> it's someone  else.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you  were
>>>>>> told.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> hoep we can get him on this list and see what  comes out of
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From:  _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>>>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44  PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows  the programmer
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> person on here.  I just might not post  anything if this
>>>>>> person
>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>> up.  After all, I got told I  don't know what I'm talking
>>>>>> about.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This person is smart, I just needed to  vent.  I work out of
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> bedroom,
>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>> kind of trapped here  because the house is not wheelchair
>>>>>> accessible,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> after I was told I  didn't know what I was talking about, I
>>>>>> needed
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> vent.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him  out if
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> could.
>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>> sure some of us would too. Some changes really  need to be
>>>>>> made.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From:  _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>>>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011  2:57 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have total faith in this list!  We  all know what we're
>>>>>> doing,
>>>>>> so lets
>>>>>>>>> work together and come up with  something for this
>>>>>> programmer.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> person is doing  their best, but this is guess work.  Maybe
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> of  the guessing out of it?  Lets show this person we know
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> stuff!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't think it's much use. As I  have been saying, someone
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> messsed
>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>> because of lack of  knowledge, and is being rather stubborn
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> admitting
>>>>>>>>> that  something needs fixed.
>>>>>>>>> If we as a list could somehow make it  work, I'd say this
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>> turning a whole new direction.  For now we can only provide
>>>>>> feedback and
>>>>>>>>> test.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From:  _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>>>>>>>>> To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05,  2011 8:28 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> i see where you're coming from. have you shown  the
>>>>>> programmers
>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show  them voices like
>>>>>> betty
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> can see
>>>>>>>>> where the loud pops are  coming from.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The problem is, Blake and I have  done that.  We sent a
>>>>>> sample
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>> 4.40 to the head  programmer to show how things should sound.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> got an
>>>>>>>>> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted.  This
>>>>>> person
>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be  whispering.  Hello, why
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>> think the name  is "Whispering Wendy"?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It is totally clear to Blake and I  that this person doesn't
>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>> Dectalk.
>>>>>>>>> And if version  4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>> anything right.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So because of this, I'm hoping the  project gets scrapped
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> becoming in insult to  Dennis Klatt.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern  Daylight
>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>> _bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>>>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> maybe you should send the demo file over to the  guys so they
>>>>>> could hear
>>>>>>>>> that and how the other voices sound.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H.  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they  need to do is
>>>>>> convince
>>>>>> this guy
>>>>>>>>>> that he's wrong and  there is a huge, huge difference in
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>> and  the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a
>>>>>> early
>>>>>> age
>>>>>>>>>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess  nasal tones.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On  5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)
>>>>>>>>> <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be  a Sapi Dectalk,
>>>>>> guess
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> time to
>>>>>>>>>>> look at  Neospeech voices or ivona voices.  It's too bad
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> head
>>>>>>>>> programer
>>>>>>>>>>> can't tell the difference between  the Dectalk 4.6 and
>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>> 4.3
>>>>>>>>> versions.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi  version of
>>>>>> Dectalk.
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject:  Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list  member to point out
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.  I agree with you that there are clipping/
>>>>>> drop-out
>>>>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I agree the  SAPI Dectalk  referred to as
>>>>>> 4.3
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> unlike
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I,  too, am
>>>>>> unwilling
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> SAPI  Dectalk.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>> H.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59  PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree  with Snoopi,
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> terrible.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know who  was telling you that nothing's wrong,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk  version I've heard.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> That  being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but
>>>>>> yeah
>>>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>> issues with clipping and  dropouts in the voices,
>>>>>> especially
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> Ursula
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rita.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we  should give up quite yet though, good
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>> who wait. Giving up  on this would mean that I and other
>>>>>> users
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's  great speech.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On  5/4/11, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One clarification. From what I  understand, Enable didn't
>>>>>> purchase
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> sell,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> full copyright. As I  understand it, the copyright of
>>>>>> DECtalk
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong  though, I'm no lawyer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Brandon  Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it also was 4.6.7  at one time. i doubt this project will
>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>> everyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all we know is enable rehab  purchased the wrights to
>>>>>> 4.6.7
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fonix
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and trying to use that with the  4.3 data files wasn't a
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> question is did this happen with other versions of
>>>>>> dectalk?
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> this  version?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4,  2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old  dectalk 4.3 days. I
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got  into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> synth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stilll  do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a  special place together even though I was never a
>>>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dectalk user. The major  disappointment for many of us
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse,  and to some of us it is
>>>>>> unusable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my  understanding,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth  was supposed to sound
>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.6.4,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to  4.3?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04,  2011 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk]  Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi
>>>>>> 5
>>>>>> synth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's  all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it  needs for it to be a screen reader  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On  May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo.  And yes it doesn't sound
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> 4.3
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty  cool.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound  too bad either.  It kind of
>>>>>> reminds
>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds  almost like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version  of dectalk has more
>>>>>> inflection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I  like lots of inflection in
>>>>>> synthes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them  sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool  lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a  computer with Jaws with
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> express hooked up to it,  and I used to go in there and
>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say things  lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May  04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you read below our messages,  you'll see a link to a
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use  paul and a few others,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not for all  voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM,  <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get  the audio samples of the
>>>>>> sapi
>>>>>> dectalk
>>>>>>>>> from?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys  have already heard it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From:  Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday,  May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work  while others don't. i can
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant by bad  quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17  PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_
>>>>>>>>> (http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above link is the  sample that people wanted.
>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both told that there  is no problem.  Tell that to
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> ears.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (YUCK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated  5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern
>>>>>> Daylight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)
>>>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that means  is what you are sent is not
>>>>>> acceptable
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at  this point in my life I need
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anybody  else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at  10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves  because I don't think you guys will
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worst voice is  Kit.  I'd do the recording for you
>>>>>> guys
>>>>>> but  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really don't want to  be linked with this pour
>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>> quality.
>>>>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>>>>>>> fun  guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated  5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern
>>>>>> Daylight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I  assume you can use DECtalk
>>>>>> commands in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text?  An
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak  application performing this
>>>>>> exact
>>>>>> text can
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_
>>>>>>>>> (http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now here's the text.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme  on]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra  250]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the  factory default Paul  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now  with this voice since this is what
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably going to be  using. Let's speed it up a
>>>>>> bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:ra  300]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is probably  how Jayson's JFW would talk
>>>>>> normally.
>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put some  intonation in there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> in  the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good  old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and  earlier, if you could get used to
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you would over  time, this sounds pretty good! It'd
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting used to  again, not having had it for so
>>>>>> long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra  250]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest of this  demo was created a few months ago
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> compair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test the various  other factory voices and several
>>>>>> custom
>>>>>> voices
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk  versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will now  test the other voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female
>>>>>> voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge  Harry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor  Dennis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail  Frank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity  Ursula.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough  Rita.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm  Whispering Wendy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nk]  and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the  DECtalk manual describe  us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]     Perfect Paul         Standard male  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nb]   Beautiful Betty Standard female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nh]   Huge Harry      Deep male  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf]   Frail Frank         Older male  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nk]   Kit the Kid         Child's voice (about 10
>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nr]     Rough Rita      Deep female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu]   Uppity Ursula   Light female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd]   Doctor Dennis   Breathy male  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nw]   Whispering Wendy Whispery female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a  few custom voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf]  [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95]
>>>>>> [:ra
>>>>>> 220] This
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer  from Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lister,  we are being tested! I don't know what to
>>>>>> do!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv  br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220
>>>>>> hr
>>>>>> 30 sr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is  Lister.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come  over here and help me with this new
>>>>>> speech
>>>>>>>>> synthesizer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv  as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr
>>>>>> 0]
>>>>>> [:ra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is  Holly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is an  important announcement. All persons
>>>>>> aboard
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are to report to  the voice calibration office at
>>>>>> once.
>>>>>> That is
>>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100  lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100
>>>>>> qu
>>>>>> 100 ap
>>>>>>>>> 110
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pr 150  sx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0]  [:ra  210] This is the voice of the
>>>>>> toaster.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know  where this voice calibration office is.
>>>>>> Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want some  toast?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1  hs 90  br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> cat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice  needs to be calibrated? I want
>>>>>> fishies!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0  bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0]
>>>>>> [:ra
>>>>>> 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Queeg  500.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None of you have  any credit, so you may not use the
>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>>>> calibrator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv  as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr
>>>>>> 100
>>>>>> sr
>>>>>> 20  ap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm  the newer voice of  Holly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm picking  something up. It's another ship. Its
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> Deck
>>>>>>>>> Talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something very  close. They have been conducting
>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on us  all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. That would  explain why we've been saying all
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> silly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew I was having  trouble finding a record of any
>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calibration office  on Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine  Bickley"
>>>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02  AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI  Jayson,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will do  that. Could you suggest some sample
>>>>>> sentences
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> synthesize?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're  trying to find a way to put a "demo play"
>>>>>> button
>>>>>> on  the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enable website  so people can type in any text
>>>>>> they'd
>>>>>> like  to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our  programmer hasn't been able to spend
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> project right  now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011  at 8:12 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you  have any audio samples you could share?
>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate  on what people don't like. I pretty much
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds  like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original  Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53  PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i  can't hear the differences, not being
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> attuned
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> clear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   differences in  quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May  3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you  actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What
>>>>>> kind
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are  there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>>>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>>>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14  PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
>>>>>> chronologically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in terms of contact with DT) to send some
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for  testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary
>>>>>> listening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results indicate  dissatisfaction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On  Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI  DECtalk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a  while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing list
>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk  mailing  list
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>      _______________________________________________
>>>>>>      DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>      DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>      http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    _______________________________________________
>>>>>>    DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>    DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>    http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>  DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>  http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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