[DECtalk] Any news?
Alex H.
linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Thu May 5 22:16:52 EDT 2011
Lol! Tried that, yep, it's a E-flat then drops to a C with a little sigh.
It's tired of sounding like crap so it sighs lol
Alex
On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
> And, I was able to make rather amusing sounds by putting one note in for
> singing. I put in a low c, and instead of being a low c, it was like a sigh
> of satisfaction. It started at an e, went down to a d, then got breathy and
> ended. I can clarify if needed. Maybe post a sample and the code I used. But
> it was funny.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>
>
>>I was also under the impression that the testers were supposed to give
>> feedback about the project and so on, but when they did, they got
>> nothing but snide remarks that it's the same, "you don't know what
>> you're talking about," etc. That sort of thing is just not cool,
>> seeing as you're supposed to sell this! I hope nobody buys this just
>> to proove the point that this is just not even close to being ready
>> for any type of release!
>>
>> But I suppose, at this rate we're just screaming at the wind and
>> nothing will change.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I'm pretty sure it will. The least we can do is not buy it and discourage
>>> others from using it, unless they decide to make a change. I am hoping
>>> they
>>> will, but I'm very sure they won't.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>
>>>
>>> sounds like it's going to be released no matter what and even if some
>>> on
>>> this list want it scrapped it looks like this will be released.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 5, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bingo! That's why it would be better to scrap it. If released as
>>> is,
>>> it messes with a dead man's life long reputation. I'm sick over this!
>>>
>>>
>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>
>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 7:21:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>> What's worse is that, if this gets released in its current state,
>>> any
>>> good
>>> name DECtalk may have had will get tarnished. We all thought Force
>>> did
>>> horrible things with it. Now this! Someone who sees that a SAPI
>>> version of
>>> DECtalk is available is likely to get excited if they know what
>>> DECtalk is.
>>> When they put down their bucks to actually buy the thing, I hate to
>>> even
>>> think what the reactions will be. This is ridiculous, and an insult
>>>
>>> to
>>> Dennis Klatt.
>>> Someone who just wants a SAPI synth who has no idea what DECtalk is
>>> might
>>> find the Paul voice acceptable. It sounds like an old guy, which is
>>> certainly *not!* how it's supposed to sound. But I'd love to tell
>>> such
>>> a
>>> person to type [:nu] and see what happens after that.
>>> Jayson
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>
>>>
>>> >I guess they're just tired of hearing that something's wrong?
>>> Sounds
>>> > like a give-up stratagy to me. Funny thing is, probably nobody
>>> will
>>> > buy this unless they want to just use Paul or enjoy the sounds of
>>> > clipping mutated DECTalks or something.
>>> >
>>> > Alex
>>> >
>>> > On 5/5/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>> >> What the? This product, as we've seen it, is absolutely nowhere
>>> near
>>> >> ready
>>> >> for release. It has several obvious bugs. One of the more
>>> crippling
>>> and
>>> >> totally ridiculous in my opinion is that some of the factory
>>> default
>>> >> voices
>>> >> are virtually unusable because their parameters are incorrect.
>>> Factory
>>> >> voices, mind you. Not something some user has messed around with
>>> and
>>> >> screwed
>>> >> up. Default voices, which are supposed to be usable. Sigh.
>>> >> Jayson
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: <Dectalk at aol.com>
>>> >> To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:54 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Ugh! I just got word. The programmer won't be allowed to
>>> join
>>> and
>>> >>> they're doing an "As is" release. (SIGH)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I can't write any more.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 4:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> >>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I see. hope that this project gets fixed soon.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On May 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed at all. It's
>>> someone
>>> >>> else and I've been instructed not to post the name. Actually
>>> I've been
>>> >>> told
>>> >>> to stop writing about the programmer. But just to be clear,
>>> it's
>>> not
>>> >>> Ed,
>>> >>> it's someone else.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>> writes:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you were
>>> told.
>>> I
>>> >>> really
>>> >>> hoep we can get him on this list and see what comes out of it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>> >>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44 PM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows the programmer
>>> will
>>> get
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> person on here. I just might not post anything if this person
>>> does
>>> >>> show
>>> >>> up. After all, I got told I don't know what I'm talking
>>> about.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> This person is smart, I just needed to vent. I work out of a
>>> bedroom,
>>> >>> I'm
>>> >>> kind of trapped here because the house is not wheelchair
>>> accessible,
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> after I was told I didn't know what I was talking about, I
>>> needed
>>> to
>>> >>> vent.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>> writes:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him out if I
>>> could.
>>> >>> I'm
>>> >>> sure some of us would too. Some changes really need to be
>>> made.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>> >>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:57 PM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I have total faith in this list! We all know what we're
>>> doing,
>>> so lets
>>> >>> work together and come up with something for this programmer.
>>> I
>>> know
>>> >>> this
>>> >>> person is doing their best, but this is guess work. Maybe we
>>> can
>>> take
>>> >>> some
>>> >>> of the guessing out of it? Lets show this person we know our
>>> stuff!
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>>> writes:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I don't think it's much use. As I have been saying, someone
>>> has
>>> messsed
>>> >>> up
>>> >>> because of lack of knowledge, and is being rather stubborn
>>> about
>>> >>> admitting
>>> >>> that something needs fixed.
>>> >>> If we as a list could somehow make it work, I'd say this thing
>>> would be
>>> >>> turning a whole new direction. For now we can only provide
>>> feedback and
>>> >>> test.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> From: _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>>> >>> To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:28 AM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> i see where you're coming from. have you shown the programmers
>>> other
>>> >>> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show them voices like
>>> betty
>>> so
>>> >>> they
>>> >>> can see
>>> >>> where the loud pops are coming from.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The problem is, Blake and I have done that. We sent a sample
>>> of
>>> >>> version
>>> >>> 4.40 to the head programmer to show how things should sound.
>>> We
>>> got an
>>> >>> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted. This person
>>> actually
>>> >>> said
>>> >>> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be whispering. Hello, why
>>> does
>>> this
>>> >>> person
>>> >>> think the name is "Whispering Wendy"?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It is totally clear to Blake and I that this person doesn't
>>> know
>>> >>> Dectalk.
>>> >>> And if version 4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope
>>> if
>>> getting
>>> >>> anything right.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So because of this, I'm hoping the project gets scrapped
>>> because
>>> this
>>> >>> is
>>> >>> becoming in insult to Dennis Klatt.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight
>>> Time,
>>> >>> _bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) writes:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> maybe you should send the demo file over to the guys so they
>>> could hear
>>> >>> that and how the other voices sound.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they need to do is convince
>>> this guy
>>> >>>> that he's wrong and there is a huge, huge difference in this
>>> version
>>> >>>> and the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a
>>> early
>>> age
>>> >>>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess nasal tones.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Alex
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)
>>> >>> <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>> >>>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be a Sapi Dectalk,
>>> guess
>>> it's
>>> >>> time to
>>> >>>>> look at Neospeech voices or ivona voices. It's too bad the
>>> head
>>> >>> programer
>>> >>>>> can't tell the difference between the Dectalk 4.6 and
>>> Dectalk
>>> 4.3
>>> >>> versions.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi version of
>>> Dectalk.
>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_
>>> >>> (mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>>> >>>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list member to point out
>>> need
>>> for
>>> >>>>>> improvement. I agree with you that there are clipping/
>>> drop-out
>>> >>> issues.
>>> >>>>>> Additionally, I agree the SAPI Dectalk referred to as 4.3
>>> is
>>> unlike
>>> >>> any
>>> >>>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I, too, am unwilling
>>> to
>>> give
>>> >>>>>> up
>>> >>> on
>>> >>>>>> SAPI Dectalk.
>>> >>>>>> Blake
>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Alex
>>> H.
>>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59 PM
>>> >>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree with Snoopi,
>>> it's
>>> >>>>>> terrible.
>>> >>>>>> I don't know who was telling you that nothing's wrong, but
>>> this
>>> >>> doesn't
>>> >>>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk version I've heard.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> That being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but
>>> yeah
>>> >>>>>> there's
>>> >>> some
>>> >>>>>> issues with clipping and dropouts in the voices, especially
>>> with
>>> >>> Ursula
>>> >>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>> Rita.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I don't think we should give up quite yet though, good
>>> things
>>> come
>>> >>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>> those
>>> >>>>>> who wait. Giving up on this would mean that I and other
>>> users
>>> of
>>> >>>>>> NVDA
>>> >>>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's great speech.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Alex
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 5/4/11, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) > wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> Hi,
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> One clarification. From what I understand, Enable didn't
>>> purchase
>>> >>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to
>>> sell,
>>> >>>>>>> not
>>> >>>>>>> full copyright. As I understand it, the copyright of
>>> DECtalk
>>> is
>>> >>>>>>> still
>>> >>>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong though, I'm no lawyer.
>>> >>>>>>> Jayson
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>>> >>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will
>>> please
>>> >>> everyone.
>>> >>>>>>> all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to 4.6.7
>>> from
>>> >>>>>>> fonix
>>> >>>>>>> and trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a
>>> good
>>> idea.
>>> >>>>>>> question is did this happen with other versions of
>>> dectalk?
>>> or
>>> >>>>>>> just
>>> >>> with
>>> >>>>>> this version?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I
>>> really
>>> never
>>> >>>>>>>> got into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the
>>> synth
>>> >>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>> I
>>> >>>>>>>> stilll do
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> have a special place together even though I was never a
>>> regular
>>> >>>>>>>> dectalk user. The major disappointment for many of us is
>>> it
>>> >>>>>>>> doesn't
>>> >>>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse, and to some of us it is
>>> unusable.
>>> >>>>>>>> From
>>> >>>>>>>> my understanding,
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound
>>> like
>>> >>>>>>>> 4.6.4,
>>> >>>>>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>> >>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5
>>> synth.
>>> >>>>>>>> that's all
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound like
>>> 4.3
>>> but
>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty cool.
>>> >>>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound too bad either. It kind of
>>> reminds
>>> me
>>> >>>>>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more
>>> inflection
>>> >>>>>>>>> than
>>> >>>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in
>>> synthes,
>>> >>>>>>>>> makes
>>> >>>>>>>>> them sound
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> cool lol.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with a
>>> Dectalk
>>> >>>>>>>>> express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and
>>> make
>>> >>>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>> >>>>>>>>> say things lol.
>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>> >>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a
>>> file
>>> with
>>> >>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>> demo
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others,
>>> it
>>> works
>>> >>>>>>>>> but
>>> >>>>>>>>> not for all voices.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the
>>> sapi
>>> dectalk
>>> >>> from?
>>> >>>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>> >>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can
>>> see
>>> what
>>> >>>>>>>>>> you
>>> >>>>>>>>>> meant by bad quality.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_
>>> >>> (http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The above link is the sample that people wanted.
>>> Blake
>>> and I
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> are
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> both told that there is no problem. Tell that to our
>>> ears.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (YUCK)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern
>>> Daylight
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)
>>> writes:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable
>>> don't
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it
>>>
>>> as
>>> much
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> as
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> anybody else
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) > wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will
>>> like
>>> it.
>>> >>> The
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> very
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> worst voice is Kit. I'd do the recording for you guys
>>> but I
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> really don't want to be linked with this pour Dectalk
>>> quality.
>>> >>> Have
>>> >>>>>> fun guys.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern
>>> Daylight
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>> writes:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk
>>> commands in
>>> >>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> text? An
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this exact
>>> text can
>>> >>> be
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> found at
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_
>>> >>> (http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now here's the text.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme on]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now with this voice since this is what
>>> most
>>> people
>>> >>> are
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> probably going to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:ra 300]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk normally.
>>> Now
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> let's
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> put some intonation in there.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk
>>> back
>>> in the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> good old
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> DOS
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used to
>>> this
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> which
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> you would over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd
>>> take
>>> some
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> getting used to again, not having had it for so long.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The rest of this demo was created a few months ago to
>>> compair
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> test the various other factory voices and several
>>> custom
>>> voices
>>> >>> in
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk versions.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I will now test the other voices.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female voice.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] Perfect Paul Standard male voice.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] Huge Harry Deep male voice.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] Frail Frank Older male voice.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nk] Kit the Kid Child's voice (about 10
>>> years
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> old).
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] Rough Rita Deep female voice.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] Uppity Ursula Light female voice.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] Doctor Dennis Breathy male voice.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] Whispering Wendy Whispery female voice.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra
>>> 220] This
>>> >>> is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to do!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220
>>> hr
>>> 30 sr
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 30]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is Lister.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new
>>> speech
>>> >>> synthesizer!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr
>>> 0]
>>> [:ra
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 220]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is Holly.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is an important announcement. All persons aboard
>>> this
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ship
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> are to report to the voice calibration office at once.
>>> That is
>>> >>> all.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100
>>> qu
>>> 100 ap
>>> >>> 110
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pr 150 sx
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0] [:ra 210] This is the voice of the toaster.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know where this voice calibration office is.
>>> Does
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> want some toast?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90 br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm
>>> the
>>> cat.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want
>>> fishies!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0]
>>> [:ra
>>> 220]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Queeg 500.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> None of you have any credit, so you may not use the
>>> voice
>>> >>> calibrator.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100
>>> sr
>>> 20 ap
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its name
>>> is
>>> Deck
>>> >>> Talk
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> or something very close. They have been conducting an
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> on us all
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> time. That would explain why we've been saying all
>>> these
>>> silly
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> knew I was having trouble finding a record of any
>>> voice
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> calibration office on Red Dwarf.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>> >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> HI Jayson,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I will do that. Could you suggest some sample
>>> sentences
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> synthesize?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play"
>>> button
>>> on the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Enable website so people can type in any text they'd
>>> like to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our programmer hasn't been able to spend
>>> time
>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>> >>>>>> project right now.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any audio samples you could share? Maybe
>>>
>>> I
>>> could
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate on what people don't like. I pretty much
>>> know
>>> what
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> DT
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds like.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>> >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i can't hear the differences, not being
>>> so
>>> attuned
>>> >>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm
>>> not
>>> clear
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the differences in quality.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What
>>> kind
>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are there?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>> >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
>>> chronologically,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in terms of contact with DT) to send some
>>> more
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for testing.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary
>>> listening
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results indicate dissatisfaction.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new
>>> going
>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI DECtalk?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> >>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
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>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
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>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >>>>>>> ----------
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>>
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>>> >>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ____________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>>> >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ____________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ____________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> >>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>> >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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>>> >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>>> >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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