[DECtalk] Any news?
Raymond Grote
musicalman1 at comcast.net
Thu May 5 22:08:31 EDT 2011
And, I was able to make rather amusing sounds by putting one note in for
singing. I put in a low c, and instead of being a low c, it was like a sigh
of satisfaction. It started at an e, went down to a d, then got breathy and
ended. I can clarify if needed. Maybe post a sample and the code I used. But
it was funny.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>I was also under the impression that the testers were supposed to give
> feedback about the project and so on, but when they did, they got
> nothing but snide remarks that it's the same, "you don't know what
> you're talking about," etc. That sort of thing is just not cool,
> seeing as you're supposed to sell this! I hope nobody buys this just
> to proove the point that this is just not even close to being ready
> for any type of release!
>
> But I suppose, at this rate we're just screaming at the wind and
> nothing will change.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure it will. The least we can do is not buy it and discourage
>> others from using it, unless they decide to make a change. I am hoping
>> they
>> will, but I'm very sure they won't.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Brandon Misch
>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>
>>
>> sounds like it's going to be released no matter what and even if some
>> on
>> this list want it scrapped it looks like this will be released.
>>
>>
>> On May 5, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bingo! That's why it would be better to scrap it. If released as
>> is,
>> it messes with a dead man's life long reputation. I'm sick over this!
>>
>>
>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>
>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 7:21:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>> What's worse is that, if this gets released in its current state,
>> any
>> good
>> name DECtalk may have had will get tarnished. We all thought Force
>> did
>> horrible things with it. Now this! Someone who sees that a SAPI
>> version of
>> DECtalk is available is likely to get excited if they know what
>> DECtalk is.
>> When they put down their bucks to actually buy the thing, I hate to
>> even
>> think what the reactions will be. This is ridiculous, and an insult
>> to
>> Dennis Klatt.
>> Someone who just wants a SAPI synth who has no idea what DECtalk is
>> might
>> find the Paul voice acceptable. It sounds like an old guy, which is
>> certainly *not!* how it's supposed to sound. But I'd love to tell
>> such
>> a
>> person to type [:nu] and see what happens after that.
>> Jayson
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>
>>
>> >I guess they're just tired of hearing that something's wrong?
>> Sounds
>> > like a give-up stratagy to me. Funny thing is, probably nobody
>> will
>> > buy this unless they want to just use Paul or enjoy the sounds of
>> > clipping mutated DECTalks or something.
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> > On 5/5/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>> >> What the? This product, as we've seen it, is absolutely nowhere
>> near
>> >> ready
>> >> for release. It has several obvious bugs. One of the more
>> crippling
>> and
>> >> totally ridiculous in my opinion is that some of the factory
>> default
>> >> voices
>> >> are virtually unusable because their parameters are incorrect.
>> Factory
>> >> voices, mind you. Not something some user has messed around with
>> and
>> >> screwed
>> >> up. Default voices, which are supposed to be usable. Sigh.
>> >> Jayson
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: <Dectalk at aol.com>
>> >> To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:54 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Ugh! I just got word. The programmer won't be allowed to
>> join
>> and
>> >>> they're doing an "As is" release. (SIGH)
>> >>>
>> >>> I can't write any more.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 4:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> I see. hope that this project gets fixed soon.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed at all. It's
>> someone
>> >>> else and I've been instructed not to post the name. Actually
>> I've been
>> >>> told
>> >>> to stop writing about the programmer. But just to be clear,
>> it's
>> not
>> >>> Ed,
>> >>> it's someone else.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>> writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you were
>> told.
>> I
>> >>> really
>> >>> hoep we can get him on this list and see what comes out of it.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>> >>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows the programmer
>> will
>> get
>> >>> that
>> >>> person on here. I just might not post anything if this person
>> does
>> >>> show
>> >>> up. After all, I got told I don't know what I'm talking
>> about.
>> >>>
>> >>> This person is smart, I just needed to vent. I work out of a
>> bedroom,
>> >>> I'm
>> >>> kind of trapped here because the house is not wheelchair
>> accessible,
>> >>> and
>> >>> after I was told I didn't know what I was talking about, I
>> needed
>> to
>> >>> vent.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>> writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him out if I
>> could.
>> >>> I'm
>> >>> sure some of us would too. Some changes really need to be
>> made.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>> >>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:57 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I have total faith in this list! We all know what we're
>> doing,
>> so lets
>> >>> work together and come up with something for this programmer.
>> I
>> know
>> >>> this
>> >>> person is doing their best, but this is guess work. Maybe we
>> can
>> take
>> >>> some
>> >>> of the guessing out of it? Lets show this person we know our
>> stuff!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>> writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't think it's much use. As I have been saying, someone
>> has
>> messsed
>> >>> up
>> >>> because of lack of knowledge, and is being rather stubborn
>> about
>> >>> admitting
>> >>> that something needs fixed.
>> >>> If we as a list could somehow make it work, I'd say this thing
>> would be
>> >>> turning a whole new direction. For now we can only provide
>> feedback and
>> >>> test.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>> >>> To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:28 AM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> i see where you're coming from. have you shown the programmers
>> other
>> >>> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show them voices like
>> betty
>> so
>> >>> they
>> >>> can see
>> >>> where the loud pops are coming from.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> The problem is, Blake and I have done that. We sent a sample
>> of
>> >>> version
>> >>> 4.40 to the head programmer to show how things should sound.
>> We
>> got an
>> >>> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted. This person
>> actually
>> >>> said
>> >>> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be whispering. Hello, why
>> does
>> this
>> >>> person
>> >>> think the name is "Whispering Wendy"?
>> >>>
>> >>> It is totally clear to Blake and I that this person doesn't
>> know
>> >>> Dectalk.
>> >>> And if version 4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope
>> if
>> getting
>> >>> anything right.
>> >>>
>> >>> So because of this, I'm hoping the project gets scrapped
>> because
>> this
>> >>> is
>> >>> becoming in insult to Dennis Klatt.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight
>> Time,
>> >>> _bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> maybe you should send the demo file over to the guys so they
>> could hear
>> >>> that and how the other voices sound.
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they need to do is convince
>> this guy
>> >>>> that he's wrong and there is a huge, huge difference in this
>> version
>> >>>> and the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a
>> early
>> age
>> >>>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess nasal tones.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Alex
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)
>> >>> <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>> >>>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be a Sapi Dectalk,
>> guess
>> it's
>> >>> time to
>> >>>>> look at Neospeech voices or ivona voices. It's too bad the
>> head
>> >>> programer
>> >>>>> can't tell the difference between the Dectalk 4.6 and
>> Dectalk
>> 4.3
>> >>> versions.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi version of
>> Dectalk.
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_
>> >>> (mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>> >>>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list member to point out
>> need
>> for
>> >>>>>> improvement. I agree with you that there are clipping/
>> drop-out
>> >>> issues.
>> >>>>>> Additionally, I agree the SAPI Dectalk referred to as 4.3
>> is
>> unlike
>> >>> any
>> >>>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I, too, am unwilling
>> to
>> give
>> >>>>>> up
>> >>> on
>> >>>>>> SAPI Dectalk.
>> >>>>>> Blake
>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_
>> >>> (mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com)
>> >>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>> Alex
>> H.
>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59 PM
>> >>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree with Snoopi,
>> it's
>> >>>>>> terrible.
>> >>>>>> I don't know who was telling you that nothing's wrong, but
>> this
>> >>> doesn't
>> >>>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk version I've heard.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> That being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but
>> yeah
>> >>>>>> there's
>> >>> some
>> >>>>>> issues with clipping and dropouts in the voices, especially
>> with
>> >>> Ursula
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>> Rita.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I don't think we should give up quite yet though, good
>> things
>> come
>> >>>>>> to
>> >>>>>> those
>> >>>>>> who wait. Giving up on this would mean that I and other
>> users
>> of
>> >>>>>> NVDA
>> >>>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's great speech.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Alex
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 5/4/11, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>> >>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) > wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> One clarification. From what I understand, Enable didn't
>> purchase
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to
>> sell,
>> >>>>>>> not
>> >>>>>>> full copyright. As I understand it, the copyright of
>> DECtalk
>> is
>> >>>>>>> still
>> >>>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong though, I'm no lawyer.
>> >>>>>>> Jayson
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_
>> >>> (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>> >>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will
>> please
>> >>> everyone.
>> >>>>>>> all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to 4.6.7
>> from
>> >>>>>>> fonix
>> >>>>>>> and trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a
>> good
>> idea.
>> >>>>>>> question is did this happen with other versions of
>> dectalk?
>> or
>> >>>>>>> just
>> >>> with
>> >>>>>> this version?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I
>> really
>> never
>> >>>>>>>> got into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the
>> synth
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>> stilll do
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> have a special place together even though I was never a
>> regular
>> >>>>>>>> dectalk user. The major disappointment for many of us is
>> it
>> >>>>>>>> doesn't
>> >>>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse, and to some of us it is
>> unusable.
>> >>>>>>>> From
>> >>>>>>>> my understanding,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound
>> like
>> >>>>>>>> 4.6.4,
>> >>>>>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>> >>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5
>> synth.
>> >>>>>>>> that's all
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>> >>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound like
>> 4.3
>> but
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty cool.
>> >>>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound too bad either. It kind of
>> reminds
>> me
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more
>> inflection
>> >>>>>>>>> than
>> >>>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in
>> synthes,
>> >>>>>>>>> makes
>> >>>>>>>>> them sound
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> cool lol.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with a
>> Dectalk
>> >>>>>>>>> express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and
>> make
>> >>>>>>>>> Dectalk
>> >>>>>>>>> say things lol.
>> >>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>> >>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a
>> file
>> with
>> >>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> demo
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others,
>> it
>> works
>> >>>>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>>>> not for all voices.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>> >>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) > wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the
>> sapi
>> dectalk
>> >>> from?
>> >>>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>> >>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can
>> see
>> what
>> >>>>>>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>>>>> meant by bad quality.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>> >>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_
>> >>> (http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> The above link is the sample that people wanted.
>> Blake
>> and I
>> >>>>>>>>>>> are
>> >>>>>>>>>>> both told that there is no problem. Tell that to our
>> ears.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> (YUCK)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern
>> Daylight
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>> >>>>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)
>> writes:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable
>> don't
>> >>>>>>>>>>> worry
>> >>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it
>> as
>> much
>> >>>>>>>>>>> as
>> >>>>>>>>>>> anybody else
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_
>> >>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) > wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will
>> like
>> it.
>> >>> The
>> >>>>>>>>>>> very
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> worst voice is Kit. I'd do the recording for you guys
>> but I
>> >>>>>>>>>>> really don't want to be linked with this pour Dectalk
>> quality.
>> >>> Have
>> >>>>>> fun guys.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern
>> Daylight
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>> >>>>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>> writes:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk
>> commands in
>> >>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> text? An
>> >>>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this exact
>> text can
>> >>> be
>> >>>>>>>>>>> found at
>> >>>>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_
>> >>> (http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3)
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now here's the text.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme on]
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now with this voice since this is what
>> most
>> people
>> >>> are
>> >>>>>>>>>>> probably going to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:ra 300]
>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk normally.
>> Now
>> >>>>>>>>>>> let's
>> >>>>>>>>>>> put some intonation in there.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk
>> back
>> in the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> good old
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> DOS
>> >>>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used to
>> this
>> >>>>>>>>>>> which
>> >>>>>>>>>>> you would over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd
>> take
>> some
>> >>>>>>>>>>> getting used to again, not having had it for so long.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>> >>>>>>>>>>> The rest of this demo was created a few months ago to
>> compair
>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>>> test the various other factory voices and several
>> custom
>> voices
>> >>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk versions.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I will now test the other voices.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female voice.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] Perfect Paul Standard male voice.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] Huge Harry Deep male voice.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] Frail Frank Older male voice.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nk] Kit the Kid Child's voice (about 10
>> years
>> >>>>>>>>>>> old).
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] Rough Rita Deep female voice.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] Uppity Ursula Light female voice.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] Doctor Dennis Breathy male voice.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] Whispering Wendy Whispery female voice.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra
>> 220] This
>> >>> is
>> >>>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to do!
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220
>> hr
>> 30 sr
>> >>>>>>>>>>> 30]
>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is Lister.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new
>> speech
>> >>> synthesizer!
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr
>> 0]
>> [:ra
>> >>>>>>>>>>> 220]
>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is Holly.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is an important announcement. All persons aboard
>> this
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ship
>> >>>>>>>>>>> are to report to the voice calibration office at once.
>> That is
>> >>> all.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100
>> qu
>> 100 ap
>> >>> 110
>> >>>>>>>>>>> pr 150 sx
>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0] [:ra 210] This is the voice of the toaster.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know where this voice calibration office is.
>> Does
>> >>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>> >>>>>>>>>>> want some toast?
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90 br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm
>> the
>> cat.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want
>> fishies!
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0]
>> [:ra
>> 220]
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Queeg 500.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> None of you have any credit, so you may not use the
>> voice
>> >>> calibrator.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100
>> sr
>> 20 ap
>> >>>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its name
>> is
>> Deck
>> >>> Talk
>> >>>>>>>>>>> or something very close. They have been conducting an
>> >>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>> >>>>>>>>>>> on us all
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>>>>> time. That would explain why we've been saying all
>> these
>> silly
>> >>>>>>>>>>> things.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>>>> knew I was having trouble finding a record of any
>> voice
>> >>>>>>>>>>> calibration office on Red Dwarf.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>> >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> HI Jayson,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I will do that. Could you suggest some sample
>> sentences
>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> synthesize?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play"
>> button
>> on the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Enable website so people can type in any text they'd
>> like to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our programmer hasn't been able to spend
>> time
>> on
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>> project right now.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any audio samples you could share? Maybe
>> I
>> could
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate on what people don't like. I pretty much
>> know
>> what
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> DT
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds like.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>> >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i can't hear the differences, not being
>> so
>> attuned
>> >>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm
>> not
>> clear
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the differences in quality.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What
>> kind
>> of
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are there?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>> >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>> >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
>> chronologically,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in terms of contact with DT) to send some
>> more
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for testing.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary
>> listening
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results indicate dissatisfaction.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new
>> going
>> on
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI DECtalk?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>> (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
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>> >>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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