[DECtalk] Any news?

Brandon Misch bmisch2002 at gmail.com
Wed May 4 19:16:30 EDT 2011


would be nice if they could purchase the wrights to sell other versions instead of that one. 

On May 4, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> One clarification. From what I understand, Enable didn't purchase the rights 
> to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to sell, not full 
> copyright. As I understand it, the copyright of DECtalk is still held by 
> Fonix. I could be wrong though, I'm no lawyer.
> Jayson
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
> 
> 
> it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will please everyone. 
> all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to 4.6.7 from fonix and 
> trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a good idea. question is 
> did this happen with other versions of dectalk? or just with this version?
> 
> On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
> 
>> Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I really never got 
>> into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the synth and I stilll do 
>> have a special place together even though I was never a regular dectalk 
>> user. The major disappointment for many of us is it doesn't sound like 
>> that, it's worse, and to some of us it is unusable. From my understanding, 
>> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound like 4.6.4, then 
>> somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Brandon Misch
>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> 
>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5 synth. that's all 
>> it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>> 
>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound like 4.3 but the Paul 
>>> voice sounds pretty cool.
>>> And Frank doesn't sound too bad either.  It kind of reminds me of the 
>>> fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>>> 
>>> And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more inflection than 4.3 
>>> did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in synthes, makes them sound 
>>> cool lol.
>>> 
>>> Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with a Dectalk express 
>>> hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and make Dectalk say things 
>>> lol.
>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> 
>>> if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a file with the demo 
>>> inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others, it works but not 
>>> for all voices.
>>> 
>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the sapi dectalk from? 
>>>> sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> 
>>>> ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can see what you meant 
>>>> by bad quality.
>>>> 
>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3
>>>>> 
>>>>> The above link is the sample that people wanted.  Blake and I are both 
>>>>> told that there is no problem.  Tell that to our ears.  (YUCK)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>> 
>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>>>> edbruckert at gmail.com writes:
>>>>> All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable don't worry it'll 
>>>>> be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it as much as 
>>>>> anybody else
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will like it.  The very 
>>>>> worst voice is Kit.  I'd do the recording for you guys but I really 
>>>>> don't want to be linked with this pour Dectalk quality.  Have fun guys.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>> 
>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>>>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk commands in the 
>>>>> text? An
>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this exact text can be 
>>>>> found at
>>>>> http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3
>>>>> Now here's the text.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [:phoneme on]
>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>> Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>>>>> I'm talking now with this voice since this is what most people are 
>>>>> probably
>>>>> going to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
>>>>> [:ra 300]
>>>>> This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk normally. Now let's put 
>>>>> some
>>>>> intonation in there.
>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk back in the good old 
>>>>> DOS
>>>>> days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used to this which you 
>>>>> would
>>>>> over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd take some getting used to 
>>>>> again,
>>>>> not having had it for so long.
>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>> The rest of this demo was created a few months ago to compair and test 
>>>>> the
>>>>> various other factory voices and several custom voices in different 
>>>>> DECtalk
>>>>> versions.
>>>>> I will now test the other voices.
>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female voice.
>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>>> [:np]
>>>>> Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>>>>> [:np]       Perfect Paul           Standard male voice.
>>>>> [:nb]       Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>>>>> [:nh]       Huge Harry      Deep male voice.
>>>>> [:nf]       Frail Frank            Older male voice.
>>>>> [:nk]       Kit the Kid             Child's voice (about 10 years
>>>>> old).
>>>>> [:nr]       Rough Rita      Deep female voice.
>>>>> [:nu]       Uppity Ursula   Light female voice.
>>>>> [:nd]       Doctor Dennis   Breathy male voice.
>>>>> [:nw]       Whispering Wendy Whispery female voice.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [:np]
>>>>> Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>>>>> [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra 220] This is the 
>>>>> voice
>>>>> of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>>>>> Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to do!
>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220 hr 30 sr 30] This 
>>>>> is
>>>>> Lister.
>>>>> Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new speech synthesizer!
>>>>> [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra 220] This 
>>>>> is
>>>>> Holly.
>>>>> This is an important announcement. All persons aboard this ship are to
>>>>> report to the voice calibration office at once. That is all.
>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100 qu 100 ap 110 pr 
>>>>> 150 sx
>>>>> 1 la 0]  [:ra 210] This is the voice of the toaster.
>>>>> I don't know where this voice calibration office is. Does anyone want 
>>>>> some
>>>>> toast?
>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90  br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm the cat.
>>>>> Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want fishies!
>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra 220] I'm Queeg 
>>>>> 500.
>>>>> None of you have any credit, so you may not use the voice calibrator.
>>>>> [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100 sr 20 ap 130] 
>>>>> [:ra
>>>>> 240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>>>>> I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its name is Deck Talk or
>>>>> something very close. They have been conducting an experiment on us all 
>>>>> this
>>>>> time. That would explain why we've been saying all these silly things. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> knew I was having trouble finding a record of any voice calibration 
>>>>> office
>>>>> on Red Dwarf.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> HI Jayson,
>>>>>> I will do that. Could you suggest some sample sentences to 
>>>>>> synthesize?
>>>>>> We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play" button on the Enable
>>>>>> website so people can type in any text they'd like to hear, but our
>>>>>> programmer hasn't been able to spend time on that project right now.
>>>>>> corine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you have any audio samples you could share? Maybe I could 
>>>>>>> elaborate on
>>>>>>> what people don't like. I pretty much know what DT 4.3 sounds like.
>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> i meant - i can't hear the differences, not being so attuned to the
>>>>>>>> various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm not clear on the
>>>>>>>> differences in quality.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What kind of quality
>>>>>>>>> problems
>>>>>>>>> are there?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not chronologically, just in 
>>>>>>>>>> terms
>>>>>>>>>> of contact with DT) to send some more versions for testing.
>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary listening results
>>>>>>>>>> indicate dissatisfaction.
>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith 
>>>>>>>>>> <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new going on with the 
>>>>>>>>>>> SAPI
>>>>>>>>>>> DECtalk?
>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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