[DECtalk] List UP?

jake mcmahan mcmahan.jake at gmail.com
Mon Aug 29 15:20:57 EDT 2011 

On 8/29/2011 3:07 PM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:
> These are all generated by just plopping the text into speak, since 
> the scaling and interaction of these things has always varied slightly
> the the goal now is to try to adjust things the detailed stuff like 
> little overloads for the last step.
> I'm not sure if I reset Paul or left them at the custom voice when I 
> did the weather, so I'll resend the weather being sure it's regular 
> Paul, but in fact if everybody likes the style we can modify those 
> base parameters, as I already know that the pitch scaling is slightly 
> different so will probably have to change the pitch things but that's 
> the purpose of tweaking. On some of the voices that I fooled around 
> was so much I really don't have a feel for what's better or worse.
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com 
> <mailto:linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     First, excellent job! The custom Paul voice in the weather file is
>     great. It has a lot of inflection and sounds like 4.4, which is pretty
>     impressive. The test.wav is strange though. It's very buzzy and hard
>     to understand. Just to clarify, for now, are we just testing the Paul
>     voice?
>
>     The weather sample seems to be very articulate and precise. It doesn't
>     have any of that slurring of old versions on certain words. This is
>     great.
>
>     Just to hear the sample at a higher rate of speed, can you do the same
>     text at about 350 wpm to see how it stands up?
>
>     I didn't hear any of the soft tones at the end of sentences, and even
>     ran the file and amplified silences, and it's about 48 dB below
>     normal, so it's pretty quiet as it is without the code to squash the
>     humming.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Alex
>
>     On 8/29/11, ebruckert Bruckert <edbruckert at gmail.com
>     <mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > First some baseline testing stuff. Do not over test it in other
>     words in the
>     > beginning this is a rough cut so if we get into too many details
>     or changes
>     > it will just all become mud. We should only make a few changes
>     at a time,
>     > the other problem may become differences of opinion especially
>     with some of
>     > the voices which were never very stable because we never really
>     liked
>     > exactly what we had. This is an old version of DECtalk so
>     occasionally you
>     > will hear little homes at the end of things during what should
>     be silence.
>     > This is a mathematical problem called a limit cycle when we're
>     finished I'll
>     > add the new code I developed to squelch it. It took us years to
>     figure out a
>     > way to get rid of it perceptually we never could get rid of it
>     > mathematically. Lastly I had to change the gain of voicing on
>     the modified
>     > voice that was sent without going into a long explanation which
>     I can later
>     > if people want the gains of the cascade vocal track have never
>     ever been
>     > constant it's a mathematical issue where you're constantly
>     trying to adjust
>     > them between quantization and overload and we've never been able to
>     > guarantee them.
>     > Lastly people can think about singing. The problem is that most SAPI
>     > applications strip stuff out so I'm looking for suggestions of
>     how we could
>     > fool it and tell DECtalk that it was supposed to go into
>     phonemic mode so it
>     > can sing. I don't know what can and  cannot get through the various
>     > applications and while
>     >
>     > Again don't put too much effort in two critical listening at
>     this stage as
>     > were not fine-tuning it just training 3n where targets are
>     >
>     > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:06 PM, jake mcmahan
>     <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com <mailto:mcmahan.jake at gmail.com>>wrote:
>     >
>     >>   On 8/29/2011 11:52 AM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Hello everyone the good news is I had a generator the bad news
>     is I had to
>     >> use it. I'm having trouble with the 2008 free edition of visual
>     C I can't
>     >> run the debugger. But before I uninstall and reinstall it I
>     want to get
>     >> this
>     >> baseline out but it's a little bit painful because I can't run the
>     >> debugger
>     >> so I'm doing it by an archaic method. So it'll be out sometime
>     today and
>     >> then I'll reload visual C.
>     >>
>     >> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 4:11 PM, jake mcmahan
>     >> <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com <mailto:mcmahan.jake at gmail.com>>wrote:
>     >>
>     >>  On 8/28/2011 11:40 AM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Ed K okay I'm ready. I have a base tuning of all the voices. So
>     send me
>     >> the
>     >> various files to test with and we will try and get some
>     agreement on the
>     >> voices.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:32 AM, ebruckert Bruckert
>     <edbruckert at gmail.com <mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com>
>     >> > wrote:
>     >>
>     >> I was visiting my grandson, back to woek today.....
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Alex H.
>     >> <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
>     <mailto:linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>>wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Hi,
>     >>
>     >> Your message came through. DECTalk is alive and singing. :D
>     >>
>     >> Alex
>     >>  On 8/20/2011 11:22 PM, Doris and Chris wrote:
>     >> > I have not seen any messages from this list in over a week.
>     So I was
>     >> > wondering if the list was down or if there is a problem at my
>     end or
>     >> > with my subscription.
>     >> >
>     >> > Cheers,
>     >> >
>     >> > Doris
>     >> >
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>     >> I gotcha man.  If anyone can do it, you can dude
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again, nice job ed
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