[DECtalk] List UP?

ebruckert Bruckert edbruckert at gmail.com
Mon Aug 29 15:07:53 EDT 2011


These are all generated by just plopping the text into speak, since the
scaling and interaction of these things has always varied slightly
the the goal now is to try to adjust things the detailed stuff like little
overloads for the last step.
I'm not sure if I reset Paul or left them at the custom voice when I did the
weather, so I'll resend the weather being sure it's regular Paul, but in
fact if everybody likes the style we can modify those base parameters, as I
already know that the pitch scaling is slightly different so will probably
have to change the pitch things but that's the purpose of tweaking. On some
of the voices that I fooled around was so much I really don't have a feel
for what's better or worse.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> First, excellent job! The custom Paul voice in the weather file is
> great. It has a lot of inflection and sounds like 4.4, which is pretty
> impressive. The test.wav is strange though. It's very buzzy and hard
> to understand. Just to clarify, for now, are we just testing the Paul
> voice?
>
> The weather sample seems to be very articulate and precise. It doesn't
> have any of that slurring of old versions on certain words. This is
> great.
>
> Just to hear the sample at a higher rate of speed, can you do the same
> text at about 350 wpm to see how it stands up?
>
> I didn't hear any of the soft tones at the end of sentences, and even
> ran the file and amplified silences, and it's about 48 dB below
> normal, so it's pretty quiet as it is without the code to squash the
> humming.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
> On 8/29/11, ebruckert Bruckert <edbruckert at gmail.com> wrote:
> > First some baseline testing stuff. Do not over test it in other words in
> the
> > beginning this is a rough cut so if we get into too many details or
> changes
> > it will just all become mud. We should only make a few changes at a time,
> > the other problem may become differences of opinion especially with some
> of
> > the voices which were never very stable because we never really liked
> > exactly what we had. This is an old version of DECtalk so occasionally
> you
> > will hear little homes at the end of things during what should be
> silence.
> > This is a mathematical problem called a limit cycle when we're finished
> I'll
> > add the new code I developed to squelch it. It took us years to figure
> out a
> > way to get rid of it perceptually we never could get rid of it
> > mathematically. Lastly I had to change the gain of voicing on the
> modified
> > voice that was sent without going into a long explanation which I can
> later
> > if people want the gains of the cascade vocal track have never ever been
> > constant it's a mathematical issue where you're constantly trying to
> adjust
> > them between quantization and overload and we've never been able to
> > guarantee them.
> > Lastly people can think about singing. The problem is that most SAPI
> > applications strip stuff out so I'm looking for suggestions of how we
> could
> > fool it and tell DECtalk that it was supposed to go into phonemic mode so
> it
> > can sing. I don't know what can and  cannot get through the various
> > applications and while
> >
> > Again don't put too much effort in two critical listening at this stage
> as
> > were not fine-tuning it just training 3n where targets are
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:06 PM, jake mcmahan <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >>   On 8/29/2011 11:52 AM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello everyone the good news is I had a generator the bad news is I had
> to
> >> use it. I'm having trouble with the 2008 free edition of visual C I
> can't
> >> run the debugger. But before I uninstall and reinstall it I want to get
> >> this
> >> baseline out but it's a little bit painful because I can't run the
> >> debugger
> >> so I'm doing it by an archaic method. So it'll be out sometime today and
> >> then I'll reload visual C.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 4:11 PM, jake mcmahan
> >> <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>  On 8/28/2011 11:40 AM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:
> >>
> >> Ed K okay I'm ready. I have a base tuning of all the voices. So send me
> >> the
> >> various files to test with and we will try and get some agreement on the
> >> voices.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:32 AM, ebruckert Bruckert <
> edbruckert at gmail.com
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I was visiting my grandson, back to woek today.....
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Alex H.
> >> <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Your message came through. DECTalk is alive and singing. :D
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>  On 8/20/2011 11:22 PM, Doris and Chris wrote:
> >> > I have not seen any messages from this list in over a week. So I was
> >> > wondering if the list was down or if there is a problem at my end or
> >> > with my subscription.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Doris
> >> >
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