[DECtalk] Status of the archive

Thu Sep 24 09:58:24 EDT 2009

what about a dropbox folder... I have a 3 gig limit on this one and this 
might change when I invite more people... I can go up to 6 gigs... dropbox 
is free n such.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Status of the archive

> Sign me up for the zip file. I agree that an iso is a huge pain, 
> especially
> if you are not used to dealing with that sort of file. A protected zip 
> file,
> even though it would be huge, seems the best route. This would also stop
> people from just listening to the file once, then opening it again when 
> they
> want to listen to it again. Besides, maybe someone could have it on their
> local machine and receive submitions for addition; they could add the new
> files manually, re-zip, re-upload, and there we go. Not as pretty as ftp,
> but I think it would work okay.
>
>
> Have a great day,
> Alex
> New email address: mehgcap at gmail.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tony Baechler" <tony at baechler.net>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Status of the archive
>
>
>> Hi Jayson,
>>
>> I would like to make two points here.  First, I have a complete zip file
>> of the archive already.  It is on a different drive, so even if my drive
>> crashes, I have a backup.  If the archive closes, I would either put the
>> zip file up somewhere or send it to people who ask.  I created it
>> because someone asked for the complete archive in a zip file and I
>> didn't set up rsync.  If I go that route, the zip file would have a
>> password because of the legal issues and adult material and it would be
>> put somewhere without bandwidth limitations.
>>
>> The second point is about people downloading the same files over and
>> over.  By default in Windows browsers, you specifically have to tell it
>> to save mp3 files.  If you just open them like normal, it downloads the
>> file and plays it but doesn't save it permanently.  Probably people are
>> just listening to the same files many times over without bothering to
>> save them somewhere.  It should be explained that you have to
>> right-click and choose to "save link as" or "save target as," but I
>> don't think most people read the README files.
>>
>> In closing, I've more or less given up on the torrent idea discussed
>> here previously.  It isn't worth the effort and I don't know of a
>> tracker.  I don't think a DVD iso is a good idea either because people
>> would be required to either open it with special software or burn it
>> just to look.  I like the idea of a big zip file with a password,
>> especially since it's already made.  As always, thoughts and suggestions
>> are welcome.  Again, nothing permanent has been decided yet.
>>
>> On 9/22/2009 11:43 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:
>>> I've seen a decline in the interest in making DECtalk sing. For a while
>>> before I decided to hand the archive over to Tony, I didn't get any
>>> uploads.
>>> And yes, I did turn it over to him because of bandwidth issues, which is
>>> the
>>> strange thing. People seem to be infatuated with the archive. I don't
>>> know
>>> what it is, but it seems either tons of people discover the archive
>>> constantly, which seems rather unlikely. Or the same people download the
>>> same files over and over and over again. I know that shouldn't be it
>>> either,
>>> as it's rather simple to save a local copy of a downloaded file so you
>>> can
>>> play it whenever you want, as many times as you want, forever, without
>>> ever
>>> downloading it from anyone else again.
>>>       Sad though this may seem, I pretty much agree with Tony that the
>>> DECtalk archive has outlived its usefulness. When making DECtalk sing 
>>> was
>>> a
>>> hugely popular thing to do, there needed to be an archive of people's
>>> creations. But now that's died off. That having been said, I don't think
>>> the
>>> archive should be totally destroyed. Any time there has been an archive
>>> like
>>> this one, I think it ought to exist in one form or another as long as
>>> there's someone out there willing to allow it to do so. What I envision
>>> happening to the archive is possibly a DVD ISO being made, or something
>>> similar. That way, it can continue to exist, and be available in its
>>> entirety if someone is willing to host it, as an archive now closed to
>>> new
>>> submissions. That is, the archive is what it is, and will forever more
>>> stay
>>> the same.
>>> Thoughts? Comments?
>>> Jayson
>>>
>>
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