[DECtalk] notes for some songs
Jayson Smith
ratguy at insightbb.com
Sat Mar 29 10:33:11 EDT 2008
Please, please, please, drop this thread. Feel free to take it to private
E-mail discussions if you wish. But I don't assume the list members who are
uninvolved in this discussion appreciate having their mailboxes flooded with
it.
Jayson.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Dectalk at aol.com>
To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] notes for some songs
> Um, excuse me, but I have permission from Fonix to put Dectalk version
> 4.40
> out in my software. And no, I'm not above the law, I just can never get
> any
> answers.
>
> You guys don't understand the ADA. The ADA gives the ok to put things in
> an
> alternative format. Dectalk is not a recording, it's changeable coded
> text.
> So the Dectalk vocals without music is not a problem.
>
> But I ran into a very strange situation that I think is insulting. I am
> trying hard to get permission and pay royalties on stuff. I'm learning
> that
> computer vocals don't count as real singing, therefore permission is not
> needed.
> That's degrading!
>
> I'm trying to write to Sandi Patty's manager because I'm about to do a CD
> of
> only her songs. I'm getting no response at all. You can't imagine how
> low
> I feel. Heck, I just found my free rubber stamp so I never ever have to
> pay
> postage just because I'm handicapped. Laws are just so different for the
> disabled that it makes me sick.
>
>
> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>
>
> In a message dated 3/29/2008 1:25:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> tony at baechler.net writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Like you, your post bothers me and I also feel that I should respond. I
> find your observations interesting. I only saw one reply saying that he
> didn't want it online and that was after my post. If you look through
> his past posts, you will see that he refuses to follow copyright law and
> has said this several times. He apparently thinks, based on his posts
> and attitude, that he is above the law. How does this relate to him
> selling a CD? Because it is no different than piracy and making money
> besides. He is certainly entitled to sell his original creations and
> more power to him, but that doesn't give him the right to sell copies of
> software that he did _NOT_ write and the notes to songs that are not his
> compositions. We're not talking classical, 18th or 19th centuries
> here. We're talking about songs from post-1922 that are still under
> copyright. There are many references to consult that give clear
> explanations of copyright law, some links to which I've also posted in
> the past. Therefore, I feel mostly justified in what I said. I am
> sorry that he felt offended because I was trying to help and I hope he
> makes something for what he alone created, but not at the expense of the
> developers and original composers who are getting no money at all from
> his selling efforts. Please read both sides of an argument before you
> post. I would like to respond to one other point you made below:
>
> Raymond Grote wrote:
>> Also
>> read that it took him seven months to complete. Do a software project
>> that
>> takes half a year and see how you feel when people bombard you with
> requests
>> to make it free and to post its info online. For one thing, Snoopy isn't
>> just doing this for a hobby. This is his job, from my understanding. He
> does
>> this kind of Dectalk stuff because he likes it and because he makes
>> money
>> off of it. With messages pestering him, or saying that you'll put it
> online
>> so proudly, he's going to get mad. Wouldn't you?
>
>
> No, I absolutely wouldn't! In fact, I would want to give it away and
> would be glad that people showed an interest. If it is truly
> commercial, I would market and advertise it just like any other
> commercial product. You are obviously unfamiliar with the free software
> movement. Look at: http://www.debian.org/ and http://www.freebsd.org/
> and http://sourceforge.net/ and http://freshmeat.net/ All of those
> sites specialize in nothing but free software. In the case of Debian
> and FreeBSD, they have been free and have been put online for giveaway
> since at least 1993. That's a heck of a lot more than half a year I
> think. Nowadays, the face of software is changing. It is not unusual
> to give away software just for the fun of it. Yes, FreeBSD does sell
> CDs to make money, but there is no reason at all why people can't
> download CD images and make their own. Therefore, I'm afraid your
> argument holds little weight with me. Also, I would not buy anything
> from a so-called "commercial" software project where the guy can't
> bother to use his real name. If I get ripped off or if the CD gets
> damaged, I can't very well contact him because I have no idea who he is
> or what address to write to. Nope, I'm not going to buy from someone
> who can't be bothered to use at least a real sounding name. I'm really
> surprised that this doesn't bother more people.
> _______________________________________________
> DECtalk mailing list
> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
> http://jaybird.no-ip.info/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>
>
>
>
>
> **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL
> Home.
> (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> DECtalk mailing list
> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
> http://jaybird.no-ip.info/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>
More information about the Dectalk
mailing list