[DECtalk] DecTalk can speak Italian, but it's rediculous!!!

piotr machacz pitermach at gmail.com
Sat Aug 23 06:27:04 EDT 2008


you're right this is or rhather those aren't improvements.

On 8/23/08, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
> "No, they just didn't know what they were doing."
> Yeah I know. It was a joke.
> I thought I heard a sample of Fonix Talk somewhere but it sounded so much
> like Real Speak that I didn't even bother looking into it. But then, that
> was a weather report, I think, and I'm not even sure on that so don't take
> that too seriously. I'll do some research later.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "GUI Access" <guiaccess at covad.net>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DecTalk can speak Italian, but it's rediculous!!!
>
>
> At 6:55 PM -0700 8/22/2008, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>And when I was saying about recordings of humans rather than using formant
>>synthesis, I was referring to the general population of newer synths, not
>>necessarily newer Dectalk. I haven't been able to hear what Fonix has done
>>recently, so I cannot say from experience)
>
>
> Are you referring to FonixTalk 6.0?  Fonix
> renamed the product from DECtalk to FonixTalk.
> >From the literature it appears as though this is
> still formant TTS.
>
>
>>Force computers forced Dectalk to sound bad, that's how I see it.
>
>
> No, they just didn't know what they were doing.
>
> GUI Access
>
>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "GUI Access" <guiaccess at covad.net>
>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:22 PM
>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DecTalk can speak Italian, but it's rediculous!!!
>>
>>
>>At 1:24 PM -0700 8/22/2008, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>Ah, that's why Dectalk 4.6 sounded so different?
>>>I'd love to see what Dectalk would've sounded like now if they hadn't
>>>replaced it. Why do people always have to use recorded samples of humans
>>>now, just to create something natural that has virtually no flexibility?
>>>This is why I just test synths now, I'm not that serious about them. Maybe
>>>one day the average person will be able to freely create his/her own tts
>>>voices in a way that is accessible with a screen reader! Probably going to
>>>be a long wait though...
>>
>>
>>DECtalk 4.6 does not use recorded samples of
>>humans.  For that matter, neither does DECtalk
>>5.0.  In fact, no version of DECtalk does this.
>>DECtalk is a formant based text-to-speech system.
>>DECtalk 4.6 sounds different because Force
>>Computers "improved" the phoneme and the vocal
>>tract portions of the synthesizer.  I use the
>>term "improved" very loosely because I don't feel
>>the results were an improvement at all.
>>
>>Fonix tried to undo some of the improvements that
>>Force Computers introduced but there are still
>>known bugs in the VTM.  I've always suspected
>>that all Fonix ever received was the Force
>>Computers' 4.61 source code and that anything
>>earlier is lost.  Otherwise it would have been
>>trivial to restore the D.E.C.-sounding voices.
>>
>>GUI Access
>>
>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "piotr machacz" <pitermach at gmail.com>
>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 2:41 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DecTalk can speak Italian, but it's rediculous!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>well. It's not something complete but here's how the voice of dectalk
>>>was changing.
>>>in v 4.3, the voices wer nice and the singing was cool close to a human.
>>>in 4.4, the voices went through some modefications but they kept their
>>>sound normal, but when singing the phonemes have more metalic robotic
>>>sound.
>>>in 4.6, simply to say when force computers took dectalk over, rediculus!
>>>every thing was rediculus, the voices wer synthetic, the whispering
>>>wendy decided to speak not whisper etc.
>>>
>>>On 8/22/08, Arnaud <arnaudb at netcava.net> wrote:
>>>>   french is also completly ridiculous, it's like a german teenager
> trying
>>>>   to speak french at school.
>>>>
>>>>   also looking for phonems dt references for french....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   --------------------
>>>>   Arnaud de Bonald - Paris France - WeBlog: http://www.echo-on.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Talksina a écrit :
>>>>>   Hi.
>>>>>   I found the software in DecTalk archive, it's called
>>>>>   dectalk4.6.4.zip, there is also the Italian speaking demo!
>>>>>   The voice is very very rediculous
>>>>>   but it's fun!
>>>>>   Now...someone has the multi-language phoneme reference? Thanks!
>>>>>   I'd try to have fun with this new toy, who cares if it's rediculous,
>>>>>   right excuse to play rediculous songs!
>>>>>
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