[DECtalk] dectalk external question

Brent Harding bharding at doorpi.net
Wed Mar 1 21:02:20 EST 2006


I doubt one could get a gig a second out a serial port. I think modems 
theoretically in the port could go to 115200.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question


> Hmm.
> the standard coms settings are 9600 n 8 1 which were from the keysoft 
> configs, not sure if this bares anything on this though.
> I know actual modems can go from 100 through to 11500 bps
> Ports settings can go to 9000 maybe 99000 almost a gb.
> however nothing runs that fast in a modem.
> I just know they can.
> At 09:59 a.m. 2/03/2006, you wrote:
>>Hi,
>>So what you would need to connect the unit to your computer is a 25-pin
>>female to 9-pin female cable.  I don't know that I've ever seen such a
>>thing, but you could certainly use a female to female gender changer. 
>>E.G.
>>use a 25-pin male to 9-pin female cable, and plug the gender changer into
>>the 25-pin end of the cable, thus making the male a female and able to 
>>plug
>>into the DECtalk.
>>Now assuming you get the thing connected properly, you'll still have to 
>>deal
>>with communication settings such as baud rate and the like.  Unfortunately 
>>I
>>know absolutely nothing about how these are set on the old DECtalk units
>>because I have never used or even seen one.
>>Jayson.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "hank smith" <hanksmith4 at earthlink.net>
>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:17 PM
>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>>
>>
>>> the port has pins showing on it
>>> thanks
>>> hank
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at bellsouth.net>
>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:28 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> > Assuming the ports on the back of your DECtalk are female, that is, 
>>> > they
>>> > do
>>> > not have pins showing, you would need a 25-pin male to 9-pin female.
>>> > These
>>> > cables were in common use not too long ago when external modems were
>>being
>>> > used, most modems had 25-pin female serial ports.  As to whether you
>>need
>>> > a
>>> > null modem cable or adaptor, I can't say as I don't know how the 
>>> > serial
>>> > ports in the DECtalk are wired, but I would tend to think not.  A null
>>> > modem
>>> > cable or a null modem adaptor is needed in some instances, especially
>>when
>>> > hooking two computers together.  There are two different types of 
>>> > serial
>>> > equipment.  Normally when two serial devices are connected properly,
>>each
>>> > device's Receive line is connected to the other device's Transmit 
>>> > line.
>>> > When you try to hook up two devices of the same type without a null
>>modem
>>> > cable or adaptor, the transmit lines and the receive lines are 
>>> > connected
>>> > to
>>> > themselves.  That is like two people trying to communicate over a
>>> > telephone
>>> > by talking into the earpiece and listening to the mouthpiece.  In 
>>> > short,
>>> > absolutely nothing is accomplished by so doing.  A null modem adaptor 
>>> > is
>>> > put
>>> > at one end of the cable to switch the pins around in these instances, 
>>> > or
>>a
>>> > null modem cable can be used which is already wired thus.  Usually the
>>> > only
>>> > time this is an issue is when you are trying to hook up two computers.
>>> > Jayson.
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "hank smith" <hanksmith4 at earthlink.net>
>>> > To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:42 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> what kind of cable do I need to make this thing work with a computer?
>>> >> is there such a thing as a 25 mail to 9 pin femail?
>>> >> I'll be damned if I can find one of things I was told to look at a 
>>> >> null
>>> >> modem cable but that is just for internet connections i thaught
>>> >> its interesting though that you mentioned interfacing this thing with
>>> > phone
>>> >> lines thing things looks like a computer but no ports for a keyboard 
>>> >> or
>>> >> anything its really big some what long etc.it has a fan inside it to.
>>> >> anyways if any oe has used one of these things please get back to me.
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at bellsouth.net>
>>> >> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:58 AM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hi,
>>> >> > You have one of the old DECtalks.  I've never seen one of these so
>>> >> > don't
>>> >> > have connector info, but I've heard Speakup under Linux can use 
>>> >> > these
>>> >> > so
>>> >> > if
>>> >> > you ever want someone to take it off your hands...
>>> >> > Anyway, you're wrong, any connector with pins or plugs showing is a
>>> > male,
>>> >> > any jack or serial connector without pins showing is a female.  The
>>> > phone
>>> >> > jacks, as I understand it, are not used for connection to a 
>>> >> > computer.
>>> >> > These
>>> >> > old DECtalk units could interface with a phone line to give callers
>>> > spoken
>>> >> > information, provided you had or could write the appropriate
>>software.
>>> > I
>>> >> > think they could even do menu-based stuff, E.G. "For the song of 
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > day
>>> >> > press 1, for the DECtalk demo review of the day press 2, for your
>>> > current
>>> >> > account balance press 3, to use a time machine to make it so that
>>> > Digital
>>> >> > would never have even thought of selling DECtalk press 4, etc."
>>Thus,
>>> >> > probably the reason that DECtalk versions to this day have 
>>> >> > touchtone
>>> >> > dialing
>>> >> > commands.
>>> >> > Jayson.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: "hank smith" <hanksmith4 at earthlink.net>
>>> >> > To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:56 PM
>>> >> > Subject: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> hello I have a dectalk external its before the express
>>> >> >> it is running firmware 1.8 when you turn it on it has test
>>touchtones
>>> >> > before
>>> >> >> it says
>>> >> >> "dectalk version 1.8 is running"
>>> >> >> anyways I am having trouble finding out what exact cable I need to
>>> >> >> hook
>>> >> > this
>>> >> >> up to a computer to use with a screen reader
>>> >> >> it has 2 phone jacks one with a phone simbol and the other with a
>>> >> >> minus
>>> >> > buy
>>> >> >> it
>>> >> >> btw I just had a custom cable made a mmj cable and it isn't the 
>>> >> >> one
>>> > that
>>> >> >> goes off to the side
>>> >> >> the other 2 ports it has are one port that says
>>> >> >> comm
>>> >> >> the other port has a square buy it
>>> >> >> these are 25 pin think its femail its the port with the pins
>>showing.
>>> >> >> anyways what cable do I need to have custom made to interface this
>>> > thing
>>> >> >> with the computer to use it as a external synth?
>>> >> >> I am going to be returning the mmj cable and I need to tell the
>>folks
>>> >> >> what
>>> >> >> kind of cable I need.
>>> >> >> any help  is so so greatly appreciated.
>>> >> >> thanks
>>> >> >> hank
>>> >> >>
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