[DECtalk] dectalk external question

shaun everiss shaun.e at xtra.co.nz
Wed Mar 1 20:17:03 EST 2006


Hmm.
the standard coms settings are 9600 n 8 1 which were from the keysoft configs, not sure if this bares anything on this though.
I know actual modems can go from 100 through to 11500 bps
Ports settings can go to 9000 maybe 99000 almost a gb.
however nothing runs that fast in a modem.
I just know they can.
At 09:59 a.m. 2/03/2006, you wrote:
>Hi,
>So what you would need to connect the unit to your computer is a 25-pin
>female to 9-pin female cable.  I don't know that I've ever seen such a
>thing, but you could certainly use a female to female gender changer.  E.G.
>use a 25-pin male to 9-pin female cable, and plug the gender changer into
>the 25-pin end of the cable, thus making the male a female and able to plug
>into the DECtalk.
>Now assuming you get the thing connected properly, you'll still have to deal
>with communication settings such as baud rate and the like.  Unfortunately I
>know absolutely nothing about how these are set on the old DECtalk units
>because I have never used or even seen one.
>Jayson.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "hank smith" <hanksmith4 at earthlink.net>
>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>
>
>> the port has pins showing on it
>> thanks
>> hank
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>> > Assuming the ports on the back of your DECtalk are female, that is, they
>> > do
>> > not have pins showing, you would need a 25-pin male to 9-pin female.
>> > These
>> > cables were in common use not too long ago when external modems were
>being
>> > used, most modems had 25-pin female serial ports.  As to whether you
>need
>> > a
>> > null modem cable or adaptor, I can't say as I don't know how the serial
>> > ports in the DECtalk are wired, but I would tend to think not.  A null
>> > modem
>> > cable or a null modem adaptor is needed in some instances, especially
>when
>> > hooking two computers together.  There are two different types of serial
>> > equipment.  Normally when two serial devices are connected properly,
>each
>> > device's Receive line is connected to the other device's Transmit line.
>> > When you try to hook up two devices of the same type without a null
>modem
>> > cable or adaptor, the transmit lines and the receive lines are connected
>> > to
>> > themselves.  That is like two people trying to communicate over a
>> > telephone
>> > by talking into the earpiece and listening to the mouthpiece.  In short,
>> > absolutely nothing is accomplished by so doing.  A null modem adaptor is
>> > put
>> > at one end of the cable to switch the pins around in these instances, or
>a
>> > null modem cable can be used which is already wired thus.  Usually the
>> > only
>> > time this is an issue is when you are trying to hook up two computers.
>> > Jayson.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "hank smith" <hanksmith4 at earthlink.net>
>> > To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:42 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>> >
>> >
>> >> what kind of cable do I need to make this thing work with a computer?
>> >> is there such a thing as a 25 mail to 9 pin femail?
>> >> I'll be damned if I can find one of things I was told to look at a null
>> >> modem cable but that is just for internet connections i thaught
>> >> its interesting though that you mentioned interfacing this thing with
>> > phone
>> >> lines thing things looks like a computer but no ports for a keyboard or
>> >> anything its really big some what long etc.it has a fan inside it to.
>> >> anyways if any oe has used one of these things please get back to me.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at bellsouth.net>
>> >> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:58 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> > You have one of the old DECtalks.  I've never seen one of these so
>> >> > don't
>> >> > have connector info, but I've heard Speakup under Linux can use these
>> >> > so
>> >> > if
>> >> > you ever want someone to take it off your hands...
>> >> > Anyway, you're wrong, any connector with pins or plugs showing is a
>> > male,
>> >> > any jack or serial connector without pins showing is a female.  The
>> > phone
>> >> > jacks, as I understand it, are not used for connection to a computer.
>> >> > These
>> >> > old DECtalk units could interface with a phone line to give callers
>> > spoken
>> >> > information, provided you had or could write the appropriate
>software.
>> > I
>> >> > think they could even do menu-based stuff, E.G. "For the song of the
>> >> > day
>> >> > press 1, for the DECtalk demo review of the day press 2, for your
>> > current
>> >> > account balance press 3, to use a time machine to make it so that
>> > Digital
>> >> > would never have even thought of selling DECtalk press 4, etc."
>Thus,
>> >> > probably the reason that DECtalk versions to this day have touchtone
>> >> > dialing
>> >> > commands.
>> >> > Jayson.
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "hank smith" <hanksmith4 at earthlink.net>
>> >> > To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:56 PM
>> >> > Subject: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> hello I have a dectalk external its before the express
>> >> >> it is running firmware 1.8 when you turn it on it has test
>touchtones
>> >> > before
>> >> >> it says
>> >> >> "dectalk version 1.8 is running"
>> >> >> anyways I am having trouble finding out what exact cable I need to
>> >> >> hook
>> >> > this
>> >> >> up to a computer to use with a screen reader
>> >> >> it has 2 phone jacks one with a phone simbol and the other with a
>> >> >> minus
>> >> > buy
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> btw I just had a custom cable made a mmj cable and it isn't the one
>> > that
>> >> >> goes off to the side
>> >> >> the other 2 ports it has are one port that says
>> >> >> comm
>> >> >> the other port has a square buy it
>> >> >> these are 25 pin think its femail its the port with the pins
>showing.
>> >> >> anyways what cable do I need to have custom made to interface this
>> > thing
>> >> >> with the computer to use it as a external synth?
>> >> >> I am going to be returning the mmj cable and I need to tell the
>folks
>> >> >> what
>> >> >> kind of cable I need.
>> >> >> any help  is so so greatly appreciated.
>> >> >> thanks
>> >> >> hank
>> >> >>
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