[DECtalk] Getting Dectalk To Sing Independent Vocal Parts

[Raymond Grote]

Is it just with the rests, or is it with every phoneme? If it's with every phoneme, it could cause problems. However I suspect that this is not a problem with phonemes, because sometimes I'd make a song and have to put an extra note in there and everything would stay in sync. Since I have a whole bunch of time now I will test it and let you know how it turns out. Thanks for the information about the rests, it finally answers the question why one of my works had two voices going out of sync. Now I know the answer! I also learned long ago that you can not put two phonemes together, say duw. Instead they have to be seperated and otherwise it'll go all out of sync. I am not going to even try having background music, because I know it's going to be harder then having two voices with there own parts.

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dectalk at aol.com 
  To: dectalk at bluegrasspals.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Getting Dectalk To Sing Independent Vocal Parts


  Hi Raymond, I'm snoopi and I program Dectalk to sing for a living.  I just release a new CD on December 3rd and a demo can be heard on www.dectalksings.com 

  Your question has a simple answer.  With each voice you are using, the speech rate kind of has to be all the same.  I say kind of because it's weird!

  Like I did the song "Dream" in 2 part harmony.      it's been a few years, but if I remember right, the speech rates for each voice had to be adjusted.  One would think you would just set the two rates the same, but I'm remembering there was something really strange that I had to do but I can't remember what.

  I can say that there is a bug in the rest commands of every version of Dectalk.  Lets say you put in [_<2000>] for a rest.  In actuality, the rest will end up being 1800 milliseconds long instead of the full 2000.  And the longer you want the rest the more time is cut short from it.  I have this problem all the time and I think it's just a Dectalk bug.

  I'm thinking you may have to make slight adjustments in some of your rests to get everything in sync.  I hate programming duets for that reason, it's not a cut and dry thing.  The speech rates need to match, yet the rests need to be slightly different.  Like if a voice keeps falling behind, try adding 25 or 50 on to the rest values.  I know it feels wrong, it looks wrong, but it comes out right.  Don't ask me why.  That bug makes me crazy all the time!

  By the way, Jason, if you are reading, I want to upgrade my files on Bluegrass but I'm locked out.  I finally solved all my problems so my files now sound more professional.  I actually want to dump everything on Bluegrass and start fresh.  The problem was, I wasn't rendering.  I didn't even know about rendering until 2 months ago.  I knew about video rendering, but not audio cleaning or rendering.  That's why most of my files on Bluegrass sound bad.  I got things fine now.


  SNOOPI BOTTEN  


  In a message dated 12/29/2006 4:14:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ratguy at bellsouth.net writes:
    Hi,
    If each note of each voice is the same length, then they shouldn't get out
    of sync.  Are you using the "Convert to Wav" feature?  Have you visited the
    DECtalk archive?  http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dectalk
    If you haven't already, visit the Software directory and download DECtalk
    4.3.  This version can convert its output to wav files which you can then
    mix in a sound editor or multi-track studio program.  The newer demo
    versions say they have this feature but it is unavailable for some reason.
    Jayson.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Raymond Grote" <musicalman1 at comcast.net>
    To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
    Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:08 AM
    Subject: [DECtalk] Getting Dectalk To Sing Independent Vocal Parts


    Hi everyone, my name is Raymond and I am very interested in speech
    synthesis. I never knew they could actually sing until about a year ago. I
    have downloaded Dectalk a few months ago and I was trying to get four
    voices, singing all different parts, with different lyrix, sort of like each
    section of a chorus has its own part. I wanted to check here to make sure I
    was correct. If one beat equals 600ms, then just as long as each beat of
    each part was 600ms, nothing would go out of sync? I know that was a bit
    confusing, but I guess the basic rule of thumb is that each note can be any
    length, just as long as each beat equaled the same number of ms? If this is
    not right, then what is the secret to making several voices, each with its
    own lyrix and rhythm, but keeping them in sync?

    Hope everyone has a Happy New Year!

    Raymond



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