[DECtalk] mod talker

Sat Aug 19 15:42:09 EDT 2006

thanks for that man I knew most of what you told me but I only had a 
basic tutorial on jfw when I got it.
I never learnt those keys.
At 03:33 a.m. 20/08/2006, you wrote:
>Once you have Jaws configured for laptops, use the caps lock key similarly
>to the way you use insert on a standard keyboard.  Just a few basics for
>moving around are all you should need to use INV.
>
>Caps+J and Caps+L move back and forth by words respectively.
>Caps+k speaks the current word.
>Caps+u moves up by lines, and Caps+o moves down.
>To route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor, use Caps+[.
>The left and right mouse buttons are Caps+8 and Caps+9 respectively.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Lehne
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at bellsouth.net>
>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 6:11 AM
>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker
>
>
> > Hi,
> > Yes, I do mean the Jaws cursor.  Moving the Jaws cursor also moves the
> > mouse
> > pointer.  I don't know how on a Laptop, but there are keys to left and
> > right
> > click the mouse, once you've positioned it on something you want to click
> > on.
> > Jayson.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> > To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 6:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker
> >
> >
> >> do you mean the jaws cursor, I have never used the mouse curser and I
> >> don't know how to use it.
> >> I don't even know which keys for laptop layout would do that.
> >> I can root pc to jaws and jaws to pc, I can go to pc or jaws cursors.
> >> At 10:08 a.m. 19/08/2006, you wrote:
> >> >Hi,
> >> >Please read the Readme for both programs, and use Invtutor available on
> > your
> >> >desktop for the Invtool tutorial.  This will tell you what you need to
> > do.
> >> >The calibration procedure in Invtool is very hard/impossible for a blind
> >> >person currently.  I'm getting by without it, actually.  Other than
> >> >that,
> > on
> >> >Win 98 SE, both programs are working quite well with Jaws.  You just
> >> >have
> > to
> >> >use your mouse curser and clicking buttons a lot.  The buttons you need
> > to
> >> >access are labeled already so you can find what to click on.
> >> >Jayson.
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> >> >To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >> >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:40 PM
> >> >Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > hmm harmonised speech like a vocoder.
> >> > > Would sound quite sifi.
> >> > > Are there any scripts or anything for jaws?
> >> > > I can't use either program mod talk and inv tool in that program, to
> >> > > a limited extent I can use hal but.
> >> > > I havn't been able to nut it all out.
> >> > > At 10:27 p.m. 18/08/2006, you wrote:
> >> > > >Hi,
> >> > > >As I've said before, the developers know about the nonworking Sapi
> > thing
> >> >and
> >> > > >they're working on it.  It's most likely a bug in their software,
> >> > > >but
> >> >since
> >> > > >they haven't yet been able to reproduce it themselves it's hard for
> > them
> >> >to
> >> > > >troubleshoot.
> >> > > >As for recording voices, I had some of the same thoughts you did
> >> > > >when
> > I
> >> > > >first started, but this isn't a product out of science fiction.  The
> > fact
> >> > > >is, by default, there are one thousand six hundred forty nine
> > specific
> >> > > >things the system wants a speaker to say in order to generate a
> > synthetic
> >> > > >version of that speaker's voice.  This includes some sentences which
> > a
> >> > > >person using a communication device might use, some words, some
> > phrases,
> >> > > >some of which are reasonable and others don't make any sense (for
> >> >example,
> >> > > >"latching churches" or "darling potato") and some pure nonsense not
> > real
> >> > > >words which, I'm sure, is designed to capture several versions of
> >> >different
> >> > > >speech sounds.  This inventory of things to say is designed to
> > capture
> >> >all
> >> > > >of the sounds a person can make while speaking in the English
> > language.
> >> >In
> >> > > >order to make a voice out of a prerecorded thing, you'd certainly
> > have to
> >> > > >create your own inventory from scratch since you couldn't make, say,
> > a
> >> > > >character from a movie say the 1649 things it wants.  You'd also
> >> > > >have
> > to
> >> > > >insure that every last speech sound got captured at least once.  For
> > a
> >> > > >demonstration of this, look at www.bluegrasspals.com/modeltalker and
> > grab
> >> > > >sample1.  Here, I had gotten to a point where several of the speech
> >> >sounds
> >> > > >necessary to speak what I had typed had not yet been recorded, and
> > the
> >> > > >result is gaps in the speech, since the system had no idea how to
> >> >synthesize
> >> > > >those missing sounds.  Also, there would need to be no background
> > noise,
> >> > > >music, etc. in the files, since that would only confuse the recorder
> >> >and/or
> >> > > >put undesired sounds in the speech produced.
> >> > > >Jayson.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> >> > > >To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >> > > >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 5:39 AM
> >> > > >Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Well thats strange, I tried this with my software, sam didn't
> >> > > > > even
> >> > > > > detect the voice.
> >> > > > > And well every voice usually plays even in control panel/speech
> > mode.
> >> > > > > This one did not.
> >> > > > > Its a pitty this does not work as expected, as I was hoping to
> >> > > > > use
> >> > > > > the system for an unlimited synth thingy maybe some speech
> > recordings.
> >> > > > > Can this modtalker and invtool accept stuff from other files
> >> > > > > other
> >> > > > > than stuff recorded if they have speech in them?
> >> > > > > Or just wav files in general?
> >> > > > > That could open the way to some interesting voices already set as
> >> > > >synthetic.
> >> > > > > The trek comps come to mind, both voyager, tng, and tos as I have
> > a
> >> > > > > load of files on each plus the elete force 1 and 2, and ofcause
> > some
> >> > > > > borg stuff.
> >> > > > > At 09:10 p.m. 18/08/2006, you wrote:
> >> > > > > >Hi,
> >> > > > > >First, SAPI isn't working for lots of blind folks, and the
> > developers
> >> >are
> >> > > > > >aware of this.  The funny thing is, they can get SAPI working
> > just
> >> >fine.
> >> > > >I
> >> > > > > >told Tim to download and install the Jaws demo and see if that
> > makes
> >> >Sapi
> >> > > > > >stop working.  Since lots of blind people are having problems,
> > yet
> >> >the
> >> > > > > >developers can use Sapi just fine, blindness related software
> > could
> >> > > > > >certainly be a variable.
> >> > > > > >As for Invtool, please check out Invtutor which is available
> >> > > > > >with
> > the
> >> > > > > >program.  This is a series of web pages which should get you
> > going.
> >> >As
> >> > > >I've
> >> > > > > >always said, there's lots of mouse clicking required but thank
> > God
> >> >the
> >> > > > > >buttons are labeled.
> >> > > > > >To select the high-quality voice once it's installed, I haven't
> > done
> >> > > >this,
> >> > > > > >but go into Modeltalker, hit Alt+O then Enter for the Options
> > dialog.
> >> > > >You
> >> > > > > >have to know what the voice database is called, maybe if there's
> >> > > > > >instructions for the voice it tells you.  Anyway, delete what's
> > in
> >> >the
> >> > > >box
> >> > > > > >and type in the name of the new voice database.  Then mouse
> >> > > > > >click
> > on
> >> >the
> >> > > >Ok
> >> > > > > >button to put the setting into effect.
> >> > > > > >Hope this helps!
> >> > > > > >Jayson.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> >> > > > > >To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >> > > > > >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 4:17 AM
> >> > > > > >Subject: [DECtalk] mod talker
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Hi I have a few questions.
> >> > > > > > > I just downloaded and installed all componants.
> >> > > > > > > I use jaws and hal.
> >> > > > > > > I have a few questions.
> >> > > > > > > How do you record your own voice in the inv tool?
> >> > > > > > > How do you get the good quality voice to select in mod
> >> > > > > > > talker?
> >> > > > > > > How do you get mod talker  voice speaking for sapi?
> >> > > > > > > I tried with the control panel /speech/tts page and it said
> > the
> >> >voice
> >> > > > > > > can not play or something to that effect.
> >> > > > > > > I have the entire 162mb of files on the system as I write
> > this.
> >> > > > > > >
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