[DECtalk] mod talker

shaun everiss shaun.e at xtra.co.nz
Sat Aug 19 15:33:59 EDT 2006 

oh I havn't mannaged to get stuff to work yet.
I have read the tutorials though.
At 11:11 p.m. 19/08/2006, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Yes, I do mean the Jaws cursor.  Moving the Jaws cursor also moves the mouse
>pointer.  I don't know how on a Laptop, but there are keys to left and right
>click the mouse, once you've positioned it on something you want to click
>on.
>Jayson.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 6:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker
>
>
> > do you mean the jaws cursor, I have never used the mouse curser and I
> > don't know how to use it.
> > I don't even know which keys for laptop layout would do that.
> > I can root pc to jaws and jaws to pc, I can go to pc or jaws cursors.
> > At 10:08 a.m. 19/08/2006, you wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >Please read the Readme for both programs, and use Invtutor available on
>your
> > >desktop for the Invtool tutorial.  This will tell you what you need to
>do.
> > >The calibration procedure in Invtool is very hard/impossible for a blind
> > >person currently.  I'm getting by without it, actually.  Other than that,
>on
> > >Win 98 SE, both programs are working quite well with Jaws.  You just have
>to
> > >use your mouse curser and clicking buttons a lot.  The buttons you need
>to
> > >access are labeled already so you can find what to click on.
> > >Jayson.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> > >To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> > >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:40 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker
> > >
> > >
> > > > hmm harmonised speech like a vocoder.
> > > > Would sound quite sifi.
> > > > Are there any scripts or anything for jaws?
> > > > I can't use either program mod talk and inv tool in that program, to
> > > > a limited extent I can use hal but.
> > > > I havn't been able to nut it all out.
> > > > At 10:27 p.m. 18/08/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >Hi,
> > > > >As I've said before, the developers know about the nonworking Sapi
>thing
> > >and
> > > > >they're working on it.  It's most likely a bug in their software, but
> > >since
> > > > >they haven't yet been able to reproduce it themselves it's hard for
>them
> > >to
> > > > >troubleshoot.
> > > > >As for recording voices, I had some of the same thoughts you did when
>I
> > > > >first started, but this isn't a product out of science fiction.  The
>fact
> > > > >is, by default, there are one thousand six hundred forty nine
>specific
> > > > >things the system wants a speaker to say in order to generate a
>synthetic
> > > > >version of that speaker's voice.  This includes some sentences which
>a
> > > > >person using a communication device might use, some words, some
>phrases,
> > > > >some of which are reasonable and others don't make any sense (for
> > >example,
> > > > >"latching churches" or "darling potato") and some pure nonsense not
>real
> > > > >words which, I'm sure, is designed to capture several versions of
> > >different
> > > > >speech sounds.  This inventory of things to say is designed to
>capture
> > >all
> > > > >of the sounds a person can make while speaking in the English
>language.
> > >In
> > > > >order to make a voice out of a prerecorded thing, you'd certainly
>have to
> > > > >create your own inventory from scratch since you couldn't make, say,
>a
> > > > >character from a movie say the 1649 things it wants.  You'd also have
>to
> > > > >insure that every last speech sound got captured at least once.  For
>a
> > > > >demonstration of this, look at www.bluegrasspals.com/modeltalker and
>grab
> > > > >sample1.  Here, I had gotten to a point where several of the speech
> > >sounds
> > > > >necessary to speak what I had typed had not yet been recorded, and
>the
> > > > >result is gaps in the speech, since the system had no idea how to
> > >synthesize
> > > > >those missing sounds.  Also, there would need to be no background
>noise,
> > > > >music, etc. in the files, since that would only confuse the recorder
> > >and/or
> > > > >put undesired sounds in the speech produced.
> > > > >Jayson.
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> > > > >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 5:39 AM
> > > > >Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well thats strange, I tried this with my software, sam didn't even
> > > > > > detect the voice.
> > > > > > And well every voice usually plays even in control panel/speech
>mode.
> > > > > > This one did not.
> > > > > > Its a pitty this does not work as expected, as I was hoping to use
> > > > > > the system for an unlimited synth thingy maybe some speech
>recordings.
> > > > > > Can this modtalker and invtool accept stuff from other files other
> > > > > > than stuff recorded if they have speech in them?
> > > > > > Or just wav files in general?
> > > > > > That could open the way to some interesting voices already set as
> > > > >synthetic.
> > > > > > The trek comps come to mind, both voyager, tng, and tos as I have
>a
> > > > > > load of files on each plus the elete force 1 and 2, and ofcause
>some
> > > > > > borg stuff.
> > > > > > At 09:10 p.m. 18/08/2006, you wrote:
> > > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > > >First, SAPI isn't working for lots of blind folks, and the
>developers
> > >are
> > > > > > >aware of this.  The funny thing is, they can get SAPI working
>just
> > >fine.
> > > > >I
> > > > > > >told Tim to download and install the Jaws demo and see if that
>makes
> > >Sapi
> > > > > > >stop working.  Since lots of blind people are having problems,
>yet
> > >the
> > > > > > >developers can use Sapi just fine, blindness related software
>could
> > > > > > >certainly be a variable.
> > > > > > >As for Invtool, please check out Invtutor which is available with
>the
> > > > > > >program.  This is a series of web pages which should get you
>going.
> > >As
> > > > >I've
> > > > > > >always said, there's lots of mouse clicking required but thank
>God
> > >the
> > > > > > >buttons are labeled.
> > > > > > >To select the high-quality voice once it's installed, I haven't
>done
> > > > >this,
> > > > > > >but go into Modeltalker, hit Alt+O then Enter for the Options
>dialog.
> > > > >You
> > > > > > >have to know what the voice database is called, maybe if there's
> > > > > > >instructions for the voice it tells you.  Anyway, delete what's
>in
> > >the
> > > > >box
> > > > > > >and type in the name of the new voice database.  Then mouse click
>on
> > >the
> > > > >Ok
> > > > > > >button to put the setting into effect.
> > > > > > >Hope this helps!
> > > > > > >Jayson.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> > > > > > >To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> > > > > > >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 4:17 AM
> > > > > > >Subject: [DECtalk] mod talker
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi I have a few questions.
> > > > > > > > I just downloaded and installed all componants.
> > > > > > > > I use jaws and hal.
> > > > > > > > I have a few questions.
> > > > > > > > How do you record your own voice in the inv tool?
> > > > > > > > How do you get the good quality voice to select in mod talker?
> > > > > > > > How do you get mod talker  voice speaking for sapi?
> > > > > > > > I tried with the control panel /speech/tts page and it said
>the
> > >voice
> > > > > > > > can not play or something to that effect.
> > > > > > > > I have the entire 162mb of files on the system as I write
>this.
> > > > > > > >
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