[DECtalk] Some adult files removed from the archive

[Jayson Smith]

Hi,
Well, as I write this, Planetmirror still hasn't pulled the archive nor have
they responded to my latest message.  I don't know exactly what's going on.
If the person I wrote has taken today off for the holidays, remember in
Australia it's now in the early evening of Friday, we probably won't get a
resolution to this issue until next week at the earliest.
Tony, had you hosted the archive, what files were you going to remove?  I'm
just curious to see if we're on the same wavelength here.
Jayson.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Baechler" <tony at baechler.net>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Some adult files removed from the archive


> Hi,
>
> As some of you might remember from the last days of Andre, I stated that I
> would host the archive but would not allow adult material.  At that time,
I
> was far more strict about it than I am now.  My standards have relaxed on
> that and I won't make an issue out of it.  I still can't host those files
> because of my cable provider and their policies, and now I'm mostly out of
> disk space so hosting wouldn't be an option anyway.
>
> As I see it, you have two problems.  The first is the adult material.  The
> second is the copyrighted material.  If you set up a secondary archive for
> one, what about the other?  I think a good idea is to set up a separate
> adult archive but this doesn't eliminate the problem of Red Dwarf.  In
> theory, since planetmirror.com is in Australia, it might not be as much of
> a copyright issue and the truth is that the BBC wouldn't care.  However,
> whether someone in the US downloads it from the US or from Australis, it
> still doesn't make it legal.  How does this relate to the adult
> material?  Because if you isolate the adult and copyrighted files, there
is
> nothing left.  If we really want to be technical, we can say that all of
> Patrick's files are copyrighted too even though they have been floating
> around for years.  He isn't going to sue obviously but they don't have a
> free license either.
>
> I don't know if this helps your decision any, but last I looked,
> planetmirror.com still mirrors a popular Apple II archive.  I wouldn't
> mention it except that at least 90% of the software is still under
> copyright.  That may change though since Australia has now adopted a more
> strict set of laws.  If someone ever figures it out, that archive and
> probably the DEC-Talk archive will both be gone.
>
> Anyway, to get back to the original question, yes, I think a secondary
> archive is best.  Make it not mirrored or make it obvious in the .message
> and README files that this is an adult site.  Hopefully you won't lose
your
> DSL.  I don't know what to say about copyrighted material, that's
> difficult.  For the general archive, definitely adopt a non-offensive
> policy.  Nothing worse than a PG or PG13 rating, which is still fairly
> liberal considering.  If it's obviously an adult theme, move it to the
> second archive.  There are some adult sites that might be willing to
mirror
> the adult portion, but offhand I don't know of them and it's better to let
> them approach you.
>
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