Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated

Jayson Smith ratguy at bellsouth.net
Wed Aug 17 04:26:20 EDT 2005


Hi,
Couldn't have said it better myself.  I just now updated my own mirror, so
if the site goes down my site is up to date.  Red Dwarf up to I think 5-5 is
available.
Jayson.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Baechler" <tony at baechler.net>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at jaybird.no-ip.info>
Cc: <onj at andrelouis.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: Ownership's Comments: [DECtalk] Read me file updated


> Hello Andre, Nick, list, and whoever else.  I'm not going to respond to
> most of this.  There is no point.  I'm not going to be in a bickering
> contest.  I'll just drop the list if it comes to that.
>
> Now then.  Umm, actually I have never downloaded a thing from you Andre
> except your web pages.  Check your logs from November 2004 if you don't
> believe me.  Second, you're right.  I'm not going to donate.  I don't need
> your complaining for my dollars.  You've got to be kidding.  Third, I
> basically don't care now what happens to the archive because of the
> constant complaining from Andre.  If it's that much of a problem, just
drop
> it.  I've had to let archive sites go before because of bandwidth, so I do
> understand.
>
> I personally would be willing to take over the archive except the Red
Dwarf
> files if it comes to that.  I have enough bandwidth that I'm not really
> worried about people downloading everything.  Heck, I have about 1gb or
> more per day in download traffic already.  The only condition is that
there
> will be an Apache module in place to restrict bandwidth usage.  This is
> unfortunately necessary and would result in a slower download speed for
> all, but since I have been running servers off and on for quite a few
years
> now I do understand the bandwidth issues involved and there is no way
> around it.  Also some of the content with prophanity will be removed, but
> I'm not sure what or when.
>
> Andre mentioned that I don't know how to run a server.  Please look at
> http://investigative.net/.  I set up that server and I run it.  I am
> running Debian Sarge, Apache 1.3.33 and Qmail.  So yes, I think I know
> something about running servers.  I am not worried in the least about your
> threats to take away the archive.  I don't wish to run it and I don't want
> to be the main site for it, but I would be willing to work with Jayson to
> figure out something.
>
> I will leave you all with one other question.  Is it worth maintaining the
> archive?  If I host or mirror it, is there going to be any new content?
Is
> there any point?   I personally think not to all the above, which is why
> there is no point in bickering with Andre.  The nice thing about someone
> else being the owner such as Jayson is that it would eliminate the
> unreasonableness going on.  If he wants to look at planetmirror.com, he
> would have the option since he would be the new owner, maintainer, or
> whatever you want to call it.  If none of that happens, oh well.  I have a
> mirror of everything as of last Oct 31 and I would probably eventually put
> it up for people to download.  Since domains are cheap, I might get
> dectalk.org or dec-talk.org if it's available.  I don't know.
>
> Oh, by the way Andre, it isn't just blind people that want something for
> nothing.  It's almost every Internet user.  You probably don't donate to
> every software developer or site you use regularly either.  That's the
> freedom of the Internet.
>
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