[Blindapple] Anyone still here? And a few software requests
Jayson Smith
ratguy at insightbb.com
Thu Jan 21 00:39:45 EST 2010
Hi,
Okay, here it is! I hope this works! If it doesn't, please let me know
what's going wrong and I'll try to fix it.
This is Apple Disk Transfer, ADT for short. ADT is a program to
transfer disk images between your Apple and your PC. It consists of a
Windows application and an Apple program. The two programs communicate
together to exchange disk images. Note, this is not the full ADT
distribution. The full ADT distribution can be found at the website here.
http://adt.berlios.de
This distribution contains just the minimum needed to get you going. It
contains four files, as follows.
adt.exe is the Windows application. Put this in any directory. If you run it
from that directory, or from the Start, Run... dialog, that directory is
where all disk images will be stored, and also where all disk images to be
sent to the Apple must reside. If you put adt.exe in a directory on your
path and run it from a command shell, whatever your current directory is at
the time will be the directory for disk images.
adt.dmp is the monitor binary dump of the Apple program. You'll upload this
to the Apple, and I'll describe how to do this later.
adt133.dsk is a disk image of ADT. I included it here so you'd have a disk
image with which to practice.
manual.txt is the ADT manual.
Now, to transfer the Apple program to your GS. Be booted up in DOS 3.3. Have
your serial cable hooked up to the modem port on the GS, which is slot 2.
Insure the GS control panel is configured for slot 2 being modem port. If
Textalker is running, turn it off by typing Ctrl-E O return. You should not
hear another Ready prompt. This is because Textalker would almost certainly
interfere with the transfer on the Apple end.
Put a formatted disk in drive one, with at least sixteen sectors free. This
is where the ADT binary will be saved.
Type IN#2 and press return.
Set the serial speed to 300 baud. Yes this is slow, but the manual
recommends this speed for the initial transfer. Once the program is running,
disk transfers will occur at 19200 baud. This 300 baud is just for the
initial ADT bootstrapping process. To do this, on your Apple, type Ctrl-A 6
B return, without the spaces.
Now go into your PC communication program. Set it for 300 baud, and upload
adt.dmp as ASCII. This will take several minutes, since it's going at 300
baud. The last thing this file does is to save a copy of ADT to the disk, so
when the file is complete, you should hear the disk run for a few seconds.
If all goes according to plan, exit your comm program on the PC, and start
adt.exe. Select the com port and speed, use 19200. Hit connect.
Type BRUNADT return to start the Apple ADT program. Even if you turned
Textalker back on, this program probably won't talk.
>From this point on, all control of ADT is done from the Apple side. To send
a disk image, press s, type in the filename to store on the PC, and hit
return. ADT will supposedly not allow you to overwrite an existing file on
the PC. Filenames traditionally end with .dsk. To receive a disk image, hit
r, type in the filename, and hit return. The program will not allow you to
receive a file which doesn't exist. The disk in slot 6, drive 1 will be used
for all operations. For receives, the disk must be initialized, and all
contents will be totally overwritten, so be sure you have the right disk in
the drive! ADT gives you no warnings about this, it assumes you know what
you're doing.
To quit ADT, hit q. After any transfer is complete, or an error occurred, an
Appleworks-inspired beep will play on your Apple. To abort a transfer, at
either end, hit Escape. I'd suggest practicing by sending the disk image of
your ADT disk to the PC first. Then, maybe receive the adt133.dsk image to
another disk. Keep a copy of the ADT binary file in a safe place, since if
you ever lose it, you'll need to do the bootstrapping all over again.
I hope this helps! If you have any questions or problems, please write back!
Jayson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis Bryant" <louis at braillesoft.net>
To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Anyone still here? And a few software requests
> Hi. Yep, it is a Windows PC. Thanks, and the modem port or even printer
> port
> is fine. Thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
> To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Anyone still here? And a few software requests
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Pending another response or two from the Usenet, I should hopefully
>> have a better solution which will also allow you to receive disk images
>> on
>> your Apple. But I'm making one very big assumption here. Are you using a
>> Windows PC? If not, this might complicate things, as I've never used ADT
>> on
>> a Mac.
>> Which GS port are you connecting to the PC? In other words, what slot
>> do you use to output text or data from the GS? The reason I ask is, this
>> new
>> version of ADT will by default use the modem port in slot 2. Furthermore,
>> as
>> far as I know, this program won't talk, so configuring it for something
>> different might be a bit of a problem.
>> Thanks.
>> Jayson
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Louis Bryant" <louis at braillesoft.net>
>> To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Anyone still here? And a few software requests
>>
>>
>>> Hi. How cool, I'll do it in my sparetime. Thank you.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>> To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:33 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Anyone still here? And a few software requests
>>>
>>>
>>>> Okay, here you go. Before starting, insure the Apple and PC can
>>>> successfully
>>>> communicate over the serial port, but that goes without saying!
>>>>
>>>> 1. Start with a scratch disk formatted as DOS 3.3, and have DOS 3.3
>>>> booted.
>>>> 2. Send this program to the Apple.
>>>>
>>>> --- Start of program
>>>>
>>>> 430 START = 8192:BUF = 9000: FOR A = START TO START + 28
>>>> 440 READ V: POKE A,V: NEXT
>>>> 450 DATA
>>>> 169,32,160,8,32,217,3,96,1,96,1,0,17,15,25,32,40,35,0,0,1,0,0,96,1,0,1,239,216
>>>> 460 R = 1:W = 2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- End of program
>>>>
>>>> 3. Run this program. There should be no output.
>>>> 4. Type this command.
>>>> bsave disk access,a8192,l29
>>>> 5. Now send this program to the Apple. If your serial connection is not
>>>> in
>>>> slot 1, replace PR#1 with PR#X where X is the proper slot number.
>>>>
>>>> --- Start of program
>>>>
>>>> 0 PRINT CHR$ (4),"BLOAD DISK ACCESS"
>>>> 1 GET A$
>>>> 2 A$ = ""
>>>> 3 CR$ = CHR$ (13)
>>>> 4 PR# 1
>>>> 10 FOR T = 0 TO 34
>>>> 20 FOR S = 0 TO 15
>>>> 30 POKE 8204,T: POKE 8205,S
>>>> 40 CALL 8192
>>>> 50 FOR N = 9000 TO 9255
>>>> 60 PRINT PEEK (N);: PRINT CR$;
>>>> 70 NEXT N: NEXT S: NEXT T
>>>> 80 GET A$
>>>> 90 PR# 0
>>>>
>>>> --- End of program
>>>>
>>>> 6. Save this program. Type
>>>> save send disk
>>>> 7. Although I seriously doubt this program will damage anything, until
>>>> you
>>>> know it's working properly, I would suggest trying it on disks that
>>>> either
>>>> you don't care about, or you have multiple copies, or can quickly make
>>>> a
>>>> throwaway copy in case something goes wrong. I think this is an
>>>> unnecessary
>>>> precaution, but better to waste a few minutes making copies than risk
>>>> losing
>>>> irreplaceable software!
>>>> 8. When you run this program, nothing is printed. When disk activity
>>>> stops,
>>>> remove your disk and insert the disk to be imaged. At this point, start
>>>> a
>>>> capture buffer session or ASCII receive on your PC. When that's set up,
>>>> and
>>>> the disk is inserted, press any key to begin the transfer. It will take
>>>> a
>>>> few minutes, as the data is transferred sector by sector. Should you
>>>> hear
>>>> the dreaded buzzzzzzzz! of a disk head recalibration, DOS had trouble
>>>> reading that sector, so its contents are probably not valid. Hopefully
>>>> you
>>>> won't get much of that!
>>>> 9. To know when the program is done, just listen to the disk drive. If
>>>> a
>>>> long time goes by without the motor coming on, chances are it's done.
>>>> Also,
>>>> if you have Textalker loaded, it will probably say "Ready" when it's
>>>> done.
>>>> A
>>>> twiddle dump works wonders here!
>>>> 10. Stop your capture or ASCII receive. What you will have is a file
>>>> containing lots of numbers. Send this file to me privately. For best
>>>> results, I'd recommend sending the files as attachments, and if you
>>>> want
>>>> to
>>>> save bandwidth, zip them. Since it's all numbers, they should zip up
>>>> quite
>>>> nicely. My address, scrambled for spam prevention, is.
>>>> rat guy at insightbb dot com.
>>>> 11. I will take your file and turn it into a disk image, hopefully!
>>>> Until
>>>> we
>>>> can see if this is going to work, please don't go all out and crazy,
>>>> imaging
>>>> every disk you have. Just image one or two, to make sure this is
>>>> working.
>>>> It's been years since I used these programs, and I wrote them for my
>>>> own
>>>> use, never figuring on anyone else using them.
>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>> Jayson
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Louis Bryant" <louis at braillesoft.net>
>>>> To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Anyone still here? And a few software
>>>> requests
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi. I'd love to! This seems really cool! Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>> To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:06 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Anyone still here? And a few software
>>>>> requests
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just posted to the Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.apple2. I'm going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have to find out if there's a version of Apple Disk Transfer that
>>>>>> works
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the GS ports and can send disk images. I know I had a version for the
>>>>>> GS
>>>>>> ports, but it could only receive images, not send them. In the
>>>>>> meantime,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> do have a very crude way you could get images to me if you wanted. It
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> involve you sending a few Basic programs to your Apple to save on a
>>>>>> disk,
>>>>>> then using them to send disk images to the PC, which would then have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> sent to me to create .dsk files. It would only let you send images,
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> receive them. If you're interested in pursuing this avenue until we
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> something better going, please let me know.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Louis Bryant" <louis at braillesoft.net>
>>>>>> To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:54 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Anyone still here? And a few software
>>>>>> requests
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi. I only have the internal ports to my knowledge. I don't know
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> the GS hardware. I do have an Apple IIgs to PC serial port also and
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>> ASCII text back-and-forth, but I haven't tried any others. Any help
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> give will be quite awesome, as I want more stuff for this thing from
>>>>>>> online.
>>>>>>> People still build software and downloadable disk images for it and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>> to experiment and see what they've got on a2central.com. HTH.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:48 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Anyone still here? And a few software
>>>>>>> requests
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know you have a GS, since we've talked before. But, do you
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> Super Serial card or just the internal GS ports? I can probably
>>>>>>>> figure
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> some way for you to get me a disk image. Do you have, or can you
>>>>>>>> get,
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> GS hooked up to a PC via serial port?
>>>>>>>> Thanks. I'd love to get this disk!
>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Louis Bryant" <louis at braillesoft.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:29 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Anyone still here? And a few software
>>>>>>>> requests
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi. I do have Talking writer with Talking Writer, Dragon Maze,
>>>>>>>>> Space
>>>>>>>>> Invaders, Music Game, Voice Control, ETC. I can mail you a copy,
>>>>>>>>> unless
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> have the time to show me what exactly I need to do to make disk
>>>>>>>>> images.
>>>>>>>>> HTH.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:26 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Blindapple] Anyone still here? And a few software
>>>>>>>>> requests
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I know this is a silly question for the moderator of a list to
>>>>>>>>>>ask,
>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>> anyone actually still here who's interested in Apple II stuff?
>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>> for a few software titles, and wondering if anyone has them.
>>>>>>>>>> First
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> talking disk that says "Talking Disk" and has Talking Writer,
>>>>>>>>>> Typing
>>>>>>>>>> Game,
>>>>>>>>>> Dragon Maze, Space Invaders, Music Game, and Voice Control. I
>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> copy, but not any more. Also, does anyone have Type Talk by Lorin
>>>>>>>>>> Software?
>>>>>>>>>> I have a copy, but it has a bad sector. This program is copy
>>>>>>>>>> protected,
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> there's a way to get around that for copying and/or imaging
>>>>>>>>>> purposes.
>>>>>>>>>> Are
>>>>>>>>>> there any collections you know of, where I can find disk images
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> talking
>>>>>>>>>> software, other than what I've published?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>
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