[DECtalk] User dictionaries for Speak windows

Alex H. linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Tue May 17 17:24:23 EDT 2011


I know that if you put the word "attaching" into the 4.6.4 speak
window it says "attashaying", and 4.3 and 4.4 don't do this.

Alex

On 5/17/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi,
> I've never heard anything below 4.3, but I bet anything from 4.0 to 4.4
> would do.
> Personally, the way those Dectalks say the short A sound, like in the word
> back, is not quite right. The A is too harsh. newer versions sound better to
> me in this respect, but overall, the older Dectalks from 4.0 to 4.4 are
> preferred. Those newer Dectalks have their own set of issues.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 8:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] User dictionaries for Speak windows
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there any chance we could hear a sample of the 4.3 SAPI as it currently
>> stands? The reason is, if it's the same as the 4.3 Speak window which has
>> been distributed all over the net for years, I'm sure that same sounding
>> DECtalk turned into a SAPI would be wonderful news to the entire
>> DECtalk-loving community. Corine, do you have any audio samples of the
>> DECtalk sound you remember using? It'd be interesting to hear those and
>> compare it to the 4.3 we all know and love.
>>
>> As far as what we mean by "Classic," I personally would say anything from
>> 4.0 through 4.4 falls into that category. I'm not sure what version of
>> DECtalk the Access32 software product used, but by then there were some
>> changes I didn't like. Of course, others on this list may differ in what
>> they would consider "classic DECtalk."
>> Jayson
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 7:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] User dictionaries for Speak windows
>>
>>
>>> What do you mean by classic? There have been many different versions
>>> of DECtalk over the years. I am most familiar with the one that Dennis
>>> Klatt used at MIT when Martha and I were members of the Speech Group
>>> there headed by Prof. Ken Stevens, You may favor a different version,
>>> perhaps one that was put out by DEC, or SmartModular, or Force, or
>>> modified by one of the companies that licensed DECtalk for sale with a
>>> particular screen reader. I don't have good information about all
>>> those versions, only my memory of the one we used at MIT.
>>>
>>> We (Enable) have a couple of versions of DECtalk that we are
>>> considering for release as "SAPI DECtalk". One older one, 4.3, has
>>> been SAPI-ized and works with jvda and JAWS, it seems, but I have to
>>> tune up the voices to match the version of DECtalk that we used at
>>> MIT. We also need to test 4.3 with various current operating systems
>>> and screen readers. The original DECtalk was written for VAX computers
>>> (sold by DEC and used at MIT). The Windows versions do not sound the
>>> same as the VAX version, due to differences in the way C code is
>>> implemented on different platforms.
>>>
>>> I'll leave it to others to compare the voice quality to versions you
>>> each use and prefer.
>>> corine
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Corine,
>>>>
>>>> Does this mean that you have found a classic version of DECTAlk to use
>>>> for the sapi?
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On 5/15/11, Corine Bickley <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu> wrote:
>>>>> Snoopi will be in charge of creating user dictionaries for Enable
>>>>> products, such as SAPI DECtalk. We're not ready yet to announce the
>>>>> release of SAPI DECtalk, but hope to be soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know how to create/generate/compile user dictionaries for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Speak windows? I know back in the days of the DECtalk PC, it shipped
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> software to take a properly-formatted text file and compile it into a
>>>>>> binary
>>>>>> dictionary file. I still have one of those files, and it doesn't work
>>>>>> as a
>>>>>> user dictionary in Speak43. Are there tools out there to generate user
>>>>>> dictionaries, or are they pretty much just internal tools which should
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> been distributed but weren't? Snoopi, Ed, Corine, can anyone help
>>>>>> here?
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
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