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--></style></head><body lang=SV link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Caren</p><p class=MsoNormal>I think josh have autism or something so he dont realy understand things</p><p class=MsoNormal>Or What the English Word are</p><p class=MsoNormal>Skickades från <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">E-post</a> för Windows</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'><b>Från: </b><a href="mailto:klewellen@shellworld.net">Karen Lewellen</a><br><b>Skickat: </b>den 22 februari 2023 17:10<br><b>Till: </b><a href="mailto:dectalk@bluegrasspals.com">DECtalk</a><br><b>Ämne: </b>Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with graphical Linux.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>..and this is precisely why, speaking personally, I fear having you </p><p class=MsoNormal>contact anyone regarding this effort is dangerous.</p><p class=MsoNormal>speaking personally, you seem to have neither respect for, nor </p><p class=MsoNormal>understanding of why these laws are neither convoluted or stupid.</p><p class=MsoNormal>As for who cares, those people in their 70s who deserve to have their </p><p class=MsoNormal>work </p><p class=MsoNormal>respected, and see it live on in as many legally creative ways as </p><p class=MsoNormal>possible. Or their estates.</p><p class=MsoNormal>Speaking personally, your stance is frankly disturbing.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> These laws are so convoluted and stupid it's not even funny! If a company</p><p class=MsoNormal>> is abandoned and dead and has been abandoned and dead for several years and</p><p class=MsoNormal>> all of its people are probably in their 70s and don't give a care then</p><p class=MsoNormal>> really who cares? If I were in my '70s and I owned a company when I was in</p><p class=MsoNormal>> my 40s or 50s and I no longer care about that company and I no longer care</p><p class=MsoNormal>> about communicating with you about getting permission with anything cuz I</p><p class=MsoNormal>> have better things to do with my life, then who freaking cares. These laws</p><p class=MsoNormal>> are so stupid it's not even funny. That would be like asking Deane blazey</p><p class=MsoNormal>> who is around 78 years old if I can make a new Braille and speak. I don't</p><p class=MsoNormal>> even have to ask him because I know what he's going to say. He's going to</p><p class=MsoNormal>> say I don't care do whatever the heck you want.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 10:33 Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Josh,</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> you were the person asking why one could not just, without reasonable</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> consent, just declare something is under a public license?</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Clearly the person getting permission understands such would be illegal,</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> they did not ask the question.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> It's not up to me to get the permission I forwarded the email but the</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> person who needs to get the permission is quite busy this time of year so</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> it may take a few months</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 00:51 mattias <mjonsson1986@gmail.com> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> Seems josh dont realy understand the laws?</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> Skickades från E-post <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> för Windows</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> *Från: *Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> *Skickat: *den 22 februari 2023 06:01</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> *Till: *DECtalk <dectalk@bluegrasspals.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> *Ämne: *Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> graphical Linux.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> because that requires permission.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> why not get that permission from the individuals providing the source</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> code?</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> Anyone adding a general public license must have the right to do as</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> much.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>> Well why not just go on to its GitHub page and remove all the licenses</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> and</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>> just replace them with the general public license?</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023, 23:17 Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> Hi members,</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> Sharing this post from the blind Linux users group. Hope it</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> generates a</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> smile.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 22:59:35 -0500</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> Subject: What a find! DECTalk!</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> I'm happy to be in the fediverse right now. Looking through my</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> timeline, I</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> just</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> found a link to a Github repository that has DECTalk source code,</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> apparently</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> released by some of the original DECTalk developers.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> https://github.com/dectalk/dectalk</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> The LICENSE file still has scary words like "proprietary" and</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> "confidential"</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> and "all rights reserved," but the source builds and works. I have it</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> working</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> in speech-dispatcher with Orca as I write this.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> Note that this is the DECTalk software version 4.x, the one that</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> sounds</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> just</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> like the DECTalk Express from the 1990's, so anyone who needs hardware</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> speech</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> should feel right at home with this. No, this is not the 5.x DECTalk</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> that</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> really sounds like crap. Have fun and enjoy, and I do hope they fix</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> this</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> license soon. It would be good to have another truly free speech</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> synthesizer to</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> play with, and this is definitely a huge step in that direction.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> ~ Kyle</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> _______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> _______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> Dectalk mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> Dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> _______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> Dectalk mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> Dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> _______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> Dectalk mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> Dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> _______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Dectalk mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Dectalk@bluegrasspals.com</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>