[DECtalk] thinking of legal gray areas with licenses

[joshknnd1982 at gmail.com]

Bing AI also said at the end of its message that it had refreshable braille
cells which iss incorrect. I then told it that it was wrong and why. So if
it is trainable from input like that maybe it won't make that mistake again.



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From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of Guillem León
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 8:30
To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] thinking of legal gray areas with licenses

I really don't know if I want to get into this discussion, especially
because my knowledge of law is basically nonexistent and also because this
is like the fifth time this comes up and we get nowhere, but I feel
obligated to repeat what Jayson said. AI language models DO NOT always tell
the truth. They are trained to sound correct, not to be correct. Supposedly
extensive research means absolutely nothing if you've conducted it using a
language model, even one that can look on the Internet. They hallucinate, a
lot. ChatGPT confidently tells me that a Braille 'n Speak was made by Blazie
Engineering, and goes on to just as confidently state that it had a
refreshable Braille display. I enjoy playing with these models as much as
anyone, but always, always fact-check if looking up actual information. And
please do not say you've done extensive searches with a language model if
you want to be taken half-seriously.

> On 20 Mar 2023, at 12:20, <joshknnd1982 at gmail.com>
<joshknnd1982 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Kyle, I did extensive searches using bing-AI or chat-gpt4 AI on this
topic.
> And I have to agree with you. We are safe to use decTalk in the manner 
> in which we are currently using it. so go ahead and use it with linux, 
> windows, android, whatever you like. Well I hope it will come to 
> android someday soon but that depends on if some dev wants to port it over
or not.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Cc: Kyle <kyle at free2.ml>
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] thinking of legal gray areas with licenses
> 
> I believe since the company that holds the copyright no longer exists, 
> this would technically classify DECTalk as an orphaned work, as there 
> is no one at all to enforce the copyright. This does not mean that 
> there is no longer copyright on the software, nor does it make the 
> availability of the source code technically legal, but it does make me 
> comfortable using it, since although it is technically not legal, no 
> one will possibly be able to enforce the law, since the company named 
> in the license no longer exists, so there is no one who will be authorized
to either give permission or deny it.
> 
> ~Kyle
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