[DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with graphical Linux.

Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net
Wed Feb 22 17:36:59 EST 2023


You mean besides the 284 million people alone who might benefit from a 
legally  established door to the program?



On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:

> Yes I can share that conversation with others. Why? Deane doesn't care if I
> share it or don't share it. again who cares?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of Karen
> Lewellen
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 14:37
> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with graphical
> Linux.
>
> 1.  such a   question, in such a venue has no legal standing.
> 2. you cannot share that conversation with others.
> 3. there is more involved then  asking such a question in such a forum...off
> the top of my head.
> If he does not care, he will happily say he does not care in a fashion that
> is indeed enforceable.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Ok then why is it that when I asked Deane Blazie on  facebook about
>> reverse-engineering the braille n speak software he told me he does
>> not care?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of Karen
>> Lewellen
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 11:11
>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with
>> graphical Linux.
>>
>> ..and this is precisely why, speaking personally, I fear  having you
>> contact   anyone regarding  this effort is dangerous.
>> speaking personally, you seem to have neither respect for, nor
>> understanding of why these laws are neither convoluted or stupid.
>> As for   who  cares, those people in their 70s who deserve to have their
>> work
>> respected, and see it live on in as many  legally  creative ways as
>> possible.  Or their estates.
>> Speaking personally, your stance is frankly disturbing.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> These laws are so convoluted and stupid it's not even funny! If a
>>> company is abandoned and dead and has been abandoned and dead for
>>> several years and all of its people are probably in their 70s and
>>> don't give a care then really who cares? If I were in my '70s and I
>>> owned a company when I was in my 40s or 50s and I no longer care
>>> about that company and I no longer care about communicating with you
>>> about getting permission with anything cuz I have better things to do
>>> with my life, then who freaking cares. These laws are so stupid it's
>>> not even funny. That would be like asking  Deane blazey who is around
>>> 78 years old if I can make a new Braille and speak. I don't even have
>>> to ask him because I know what he's going to say. He's going to say I
>>> don't
>> care do whatever the heck you want.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 10:33 Karen Lewellen <klewellen at shellworld.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Josh,
>>>> you were the person asking why one could not just, without
>>>> reasonable consent, just declare something is under a public license?
>>>> Clearly the person getting permission understands such would be
>>>> illegal, they did not ask the question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's not up to me to get the permission I forwarded the email but
>>>>> the person who needs to get the permission is quite busy this time
>>>>> of year so it may take a few months
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 00:51 mattias <mjonsson1986 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems josh dont realy understand the laws?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skickades frC%n E-post
>>>>>> <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
>>>>>> fC6r Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *FrC%n: *Karen Lewellen <klewellen at shellworld.net>
>>>>>> *Skickat: *den 22 februari 2023 06:01
>>>>>> *Till: *DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>> *Cmne: *Re: [DECtalk] Report of a successful use of dectalk with
>>>>>> graphical Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> because that requires permission.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> why not get that permission from the individuals providing the
>>>>>> source
>>>>>>
>>>>>> code?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone adding a general public license must have the right to do
>>>>>> as
>>>> much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023, Josh Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well why not just go on to its GitHub page and remove all the
>>>>>>> licenses
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just replace them with the general public license?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023, 23:17 Karen Lewellen
>>>>>>> <klewellen at shellworld.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sharing this post from the blind Linux users group.  Hope it
>>>> generates a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> smile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 22:59:35 -0500
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion
>>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: What a find! DECTalk!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm happy to be in the fediverse right now. Looking through my
>>>>>> timeline, I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> found a link to a Github repository that has DECTalk source
>>>>>>>> code,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> apparently
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> released by some of the original DECTalk developers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/dectalk/dectalk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The LICENSE file still has scary words like "proprietary" and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "confidential"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and "all rights reserved," but the source builds and works. I
>>>>>>>> have it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in speech-dispatcher with Orca as I write this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note that this is the DECTalk software version 4.x, the one that
>>>> sounds
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> like the DECTalk Express from the 1990's, so anyone who needs
>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> speech
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> should feel right at home with this. No, this is not the 5.x
>>>>>>>> DECTalk
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> really sounds like crap. Have fun and enjoy, and I do hope they
>>>>>>>> fix
>>>> this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> license soon. It would be good to have another truly free speech
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> synthesizer to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> play with, and this is definitely a huge step in that direction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~ Kyle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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