[DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer

Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net
Fri Jul 1 15:15:22 EDT 2022


such is a matter of personal opinion to be sure.
given my single, and highly unpleasant exposure was on a computer using 
Jaws some years back, blaming a new company does not impact my opinion.



On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, mattias jonsson wrote:

> Eloquence are not dreadful
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> But rhvoice is
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> Från: Karen Lewellen<mailto:klewellen at shellworld.net>
> Skickat: den 1 juli 2022 16:55
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> Apple does need a version of the dectalk so that those who use the vintage
> voices for their screen reader have choices.
> If they can add the dreadful eloquence, they can  provide quality voices
> like Denis or even Paul.
> singing is a novelty, some of us use dec-talk for actual work.
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> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Josh Kennedy wrote:
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>> Apple doesn't really need a version of deck talk, because the vintage Apple voices such as Fred, they can already sing and do most of the things that deck talk. Already does.
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jul 1, 2022, at 09:42, Karen Lewellen <klewellen at shellworld.net> wrote:
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>>> well, apple could use one as well.
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>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Brandon Misch wrote:
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>>>> now all we need is a version for android at some point if possible
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>>>>> On 6/30/22, Isaac <bigikemusic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the
>>>>>> much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5
>>>>>> version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross’s IBM-tts sapi5
>>>>>> interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than
>>>>>> eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be
>>>>>> able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE <sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57
>>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems
>>>>>> the building blocks have already been built.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM
>>>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE <mailto:sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake’s IBM-tts sapi5
>>>>>> interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site
>>>>>> and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and
>>>>>> implement Jake’s directions for installation and uninstallation but
>>>>>> just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys
>>>>>> out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other
>>>>>> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake’s scripts is much easier for
>>>>>> you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE <sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23
>>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch
>>>>>> changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, there may be a workaround:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time
>>>>>> it’s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run
>>>>>> which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch
>>>>>> changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to
>>>>>> nudge DecTalk’s rate and pitch
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since
>>>>>> we can’t link to them without the correct function names, parameters
>>>>>> and calling conventions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM
>>>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE <mailto:sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another
>>>>>> text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Kennedy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE <sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46
>>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom <mailto:joshknnd1982 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research
>>>>>> and programming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential
>>>>>> complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM
>>>>>> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com
>>>>>> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5
>>>>>> interface and package them into an installer that would let the user
>>>>>> choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation?
>>>>>> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the
>>>>>> synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose
>>>>>> all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech
>>>>>> rate according to the range of whatever decTalk’s parameters are. User
>>>>>> would have to uninstall decTalk and run installer again to install
>>>>>> another version of decTalk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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