[DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer

Fri Jul 1 11:43:25 EDT 2022

I use a mac, so that would be macos.
My personal combination of disability experiences currently make IOS 
physically harmful to use.

On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:

> Well I'm running the IOS beta with its feedback app, so I'll suggest they also add decTalk in there as well.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dectalk <dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com> On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 10:55
> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer
>
> Apple does need a version of the dectalk so that those who use the vintage voices for their screen reader have choices.
> If they can add the dreadful eloquence, they can  provide quality voices like Denis or even Paul.
> singing is a novelty, some of us use dec-talk for actual work.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Josh Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Apple doesn't really need a version of deck talk, because the vintage Apple voices such as Fred, they can already sing and do most of the things that deck talk. Already does.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2022, at 09:42, Karen Lewellen <klewellen at shellworld.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> well, apple could use one as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Brandon Misch wrote:
>>>>
>>>> now all we need is a version for android at some point if possible
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/30/22, Isaac <bigikemusic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make
>>>>>> the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into
>>>>>> a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross’s
>>>>>> IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands
>>>>>> rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if
>>>>>> this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE <sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57
>>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it
>>>>>> seems the building blocks have already been built.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
>>>>>> for Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM
>>>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE <mailto:sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake’s IBM-tts
>>>>>> sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The
>>>>>> github site and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow
>>>>>> and implement Jake’s directions for installation and
>>>>>> uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls.
>>>>>> Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust
>>>>>> speech rate, pitch and other
>>>>>> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake’s scripts is much easier
>>>>>> for you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE <sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23
>>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and
>>>>>> pitch changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, there may be a workaround:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each
>>>>>> time it’s run, and each time it will retain settings from the
>>>>>> previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will
>>>>>> handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional
>>>>>> script that users can run to nudge DecTalk’s rate and pitch
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files,
>>>>>> since we can’t link to them without the correct function names,
>>>>>> parameters and calling conventions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
>>>>>> for Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM
>>>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE <mailto:sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for
>>>>>> another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Kennedy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE <sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46
>>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom <mailto:joshknnd1982 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with
>>>>>> research and programming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on
>>>>>> potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
>>>>>> for Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com
>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM
>>>>>> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com
>>>>>> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5
>>>>>> interface and package them into an installer that would let the
>>>>>> user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation?
>>>>>> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to
>>>>>> the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other
>>>>>> words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch
>>>>>> volume and speech rate according to the range of whatever
>>>>>> decTalk’s parameters are. User would have to uninstall decTalk and
>>>>>> run installer again to install another version of decTalk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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