From bmisch2002 at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 03:51:09 2022 From: bmisch2002 at gmail.com (Brandon Misch) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 03:51:09 -0400 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: now all we need is a version for android at some point if possible On 6/30/22, Isaac wrote: > Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk? > > On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the >> much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 >> version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 >> interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than >> eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be >> able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. >> >> *From:* Rory MICHIE >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hello, >> >> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems >> the building blocks have already been built. >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows >> >> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >> *To: *Rory MICHIE >> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hello, >> >> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 >> interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site >> and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: >> >> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >> >> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and >> implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but >> just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys >> out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other >> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for >> you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. >> >> *From:* Rory MICHIE >> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hello, >> >> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch >> changes. >> >> However, there may be a workaround: >> >> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time >> it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run >> which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch >> changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to >> nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch >> >> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since >> we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters >> and calling conventions >> >> Regards, >> >> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows >> >> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >> *To: *Rory MICHIE >> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another >> text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. >> >> Josh Kennedy >> >> *From:* Rory MICHIE >> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hello, >> >> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >> >> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research >> and programming. >> >> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential >> complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows >> >> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hi, >> >> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >> interface and package them into an installer that would let the user >> choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? >> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the >> synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose >> all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech >> rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. User >> would have to uninstall decTalk and run installer again to install >> another version of decTalk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dectalk mailing list >> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk From BEarlRoberts at aol.com Fri Jul 1 03:57:24 2022 From: BEarlRoberts at aol.com (Blake Roberts) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 03:57:24 -0400 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Josh, Since you "hired" a company or group of people to create a SAPI5 of DECTalk, I am thinking you might have paid hundreds or thousands of dollars. People/contracting companies are not hired for free. Will you be offering the DECTalk SAPI5 to the DECTalk list, or is the installer for your own private use only? If you plan to distribute the SAPI5 to other DECTalk enthusiasts, will you charge individuals a set fee for the installer? Blake On 6/30/2022 10:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: > > Hi, > > I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the > much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 > version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 > interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than > eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be > able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. > > *From:* Rory MICHIE > *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 > *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hello, > > This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems > the building blocks have already been built. > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM > *To: *Rory MICHIE > *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hello, > > It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 > interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site > and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: > > https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS > > and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and > implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but > just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys > out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other > sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for > you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. > > *From:* Rory MICHIE > *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 > *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hello, > > Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch > changes. > > However, there may be a workaround: > > An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time > it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run > which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch > changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to > nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch > > We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since > we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters > and calling conventions > > Regards, > > Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM > *To: *Rory MICHIE > *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another > text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. > > Josh Kennedy > > *From:* Rory MICHIE > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 > *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom > *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hello, > > Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work > > Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research > and programming. > > Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential > complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM > *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com > *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hi, > > If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 > interface and package them into an installer that would let the user > choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? > Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the > synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose > all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech > rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. User > would have to uninstall decTalk and run installer again to install > another version of decTalk > > > _______________________________________________ > Dectalk mailing list > Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com > https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From BEarlRoberts at aol.com Fri Jul 1 04:09:46 2022 From: BEarlRoberts at aol.com (Blake Roberts) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 04:09:46 -0400 Subject: [DECtalk] DECTalk add-on for NVDA In-Reply-To: References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Isaac, The only web site I know of where the DECTalk NVDA installer can be downloaded is "Jeff's NVDA Add-on Repository". https://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.md Blake On 6/30/2022 11:23 PM, Isaac wrote: > > Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk? > > On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the >> much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a >> sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts >> sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than >> eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may >> be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. >> >> *From:* Rory MICHIE >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hello, >> >> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems >> the building blocks have already been built. >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows >> >> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >> *To: *Rory MICHIE >> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hello, >> >> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 >> interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site >> and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: >> >> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >> >> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and >> implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but >> just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys >> out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other >> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for >> you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. >> >> *From:* Rory MICHIE >> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hello, >> >> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch >> changes. >> >> However, there may be a workaround: >> >> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time >> it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run >> which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch >> changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to >> nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch >> >> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since >> we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters >> and calling conventions >> >> Regards, >> >> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows >> >> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >> *To: *Rory MICHIE >> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another >> text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. >> >> Josh Kennedy >> >> *From:* Rory MICHIE >> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hello, >> >> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >> >> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research >> and programming. >> >> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on >> potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further >> information. >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows >> >> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hi, >> >> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >> interface and package them into an installer that would let the user >> choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? >> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the >> synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words >> expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume >> and speech rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s >> parameters are. 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URL: From joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 07:35:30 2022 From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com (joshknnd1982 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 07:35:30 -0400 Subject: [DECtalk] DECTalk add-on for NVDA In-Reply-To: References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <007901d88d3e$abc60600$03521200$@gmail.com> It is also on Jake Gross?s website: From: Dectalk On Behalf Of Blake Roberts via Dectalk Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 4:10 To: DECtalk Cc: Blake Roberts Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTalk add-on for NVDA Hi Isaac, The only web site I know of where the DECTalk NVDA installer can be downloaded is "Jeff's NVDA Add-on Repository". https://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.md Blake On 6/30/2022 11:23 PM, Isaac wrote: Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk? On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: Hi, I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. From: Rory MICHIE Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems the building blocks have already been built. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch changes. However, there may be a workaround: An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters and calling conventions Regards, Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. Josh Kennedy From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 To: joshknnd1982 at gmailcom Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research and programming. Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM To: sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com Subject: decTalk sapi5 installer Hi, If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 interface and package them into an installer that would let the user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. 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URL: From joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 07:39:53 2022 From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com (joshknnd1982 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 07:39:53 -0400 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <008601d88d3f$486c9000$d945b000$@gmail.com> Yes I will be paying a few hundred dollars for this out of my own pocket. I will be giving it away for free on this list and to anyone who wants it, ? and I also hope to do the same with the old willowPond tts, soon. That is, to have them modify Jake?s IBM tts sapi5 interface to load the old softVoice dlls. forever. I expect nothing in return and I will also try to find a way to put the sapi5 decTalk 4.41, 4.45 and 4.60, on the internet archive?s vintage software section. And I will definitely be giving it to Jake Gross for his website. From: Dectalk On Behalf Of Blake Roberts via Dectalk Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 3:57 To: DECtalk Cc: Blake Roberts Subject: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer Josh, Since you "hired" a company or group of people to create a SAPI5 of DECTalk, I am thinking you might have paid hundreds or thousands of dollars. People/contracting companies are not hired for free. Will you be offering the DECTalk SAPI5 to the DECTalk list, or is the installer for your own private use only? If you plan to distribute the SAPI5 to other DECTalk enthusiasts, will you charge individuals a set fee for the installer? Blake On 6/30/2022 10:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: Hi, I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. From: Rory MICHIE Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems the building blocks have already been built. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch changes. However, there may be a workaround: An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters and calling conventions Regards, Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. Josh Kennedy From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 To: joshknnd1982 at gmailcom Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research and programming. Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM To: sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com Subject: decTalk sapi5 installer Hi, If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 interface and package them into an installer that would let the user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. 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I wanted to do this for a while now but just did not have the money to pay someone to do it but now it seems like all the pieces are in place to get it done relatively quickly especially since there is free source code with Jake?s IBM tts sapi5 interface which just has to be modified for decTalk and other old vintage classic text to speech dlls. From: Dectalk On Behalf Of Blake Roberts via Dectalk Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 3:57 To: DECtalk Cc: Blake Roberts Subject: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer Josh, Since you "hired" a company or group of people to create a SAPI5 of DECTalk, I am thinking you might have paid hundreds or thousands of dollars. People/contracting companies are not hired for free. Will you be offering the DECTalk SAPI5 to the DECTalk list, or is the installer for your own private use only? If you plan to distribute the SAPI5 to other DECTalk enthusiasts, will you charge individuals a set fee for the installer? Blake On 6/30/2022 10:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: Hi, I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. From: Rory MICHIE Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems the building blocks have already been built. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch changes. However, there may be a workaround: An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters and calling conventions Regards, Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. Josh Kennedy From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 To: joshknnd1982 at gmailcom Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research and programming. Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM To: sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com Subject: decTalk sapi5 installer Hi, If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 interface and package them into an installer that would let the user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. User would have to uninstall decTalk and run installer again to install another version of decTalk _______________________________________________ Dectalk mailing list Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 07:42:31 2022 From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com (joshknnd1982 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 07:42:31 -0400 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <009001d88d3f$a6701910$f3504b30$@gmail.com> And no, I will not charge anyone for the installer. It?s free so everybody can benefit from it and enjoy it! From: Dectalk On Behalf Of Blake Roberts via Dectalk Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 3:57 To: DECtalk Cc: Blake Roberts Subject: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer Josh, Since you "hired" a company or group of people to create a SAPI5 of DECTalk, I am thinking you might have paid hundreds or thousands of dollars. People/contracting companies are not hired for free. Will you be offering the DECTalk SAPI5 to the DECTalk list, or is the installer for your own private use only? If you plan to distribute the SAPI5 to other DECTalk enthusiasts, will you charge individuals a set fee for the installer? Blake On 6/30/2022 10:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: Hi, I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. From: Rory MICHIE Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems the building blocks have already been built. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch changes. However, there may be a workaround: An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters and calling conventions Regards, Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. Josh Kennedy From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 To: joshknnd1982 at gmailcom Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research and programming. Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM To: sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com Subject: decTalk sapi5 installer Hi, If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 interface and package them into an installer that would let the user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. User would have to uninstall decTalk and run installer again to install another version of decTalk _______________________________________________ Dectalk mailing list Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mj at mjw.se Fri Jul 1 07:45:28 2022 From: mj at mjw.se (mattias) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 13:45:28 +0200 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: <008601d88d3f$486c9000$d945b000$@gmail.com> References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> <008601d88d3f$486c9000$d945b000$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <35572d0b-6314-7d74-78c2-35e52ec06645@mjw.se> jakes site are down Den 2022-07-01 kl. 13:39, skrev joshknnd1982 at gmail.com: > > Yes I will be paying a few hundred dollars for this out of my own > pocket. I will be giving it away for free on this list and to anyone > who wants it, ? and I also hope to do the same with the old willowPond > tts, soon. That is, to have them modify Jake?s IBM tts sapi5 interface > to load the old softVoice dlls. forever. I expect nothing in return > and I will also try to find a way to put the sapi5 decTalk 4.41, 4.45 > and 4.60, on the internet archive?s vintage software section. And I > will definitely be giving it to Jake Gross for his website. > > *From:* Dectalk *On Behalf Of > *Blake Roberts via Dectalk > *Sent:* Friday, July 1, 2022 3:57 > *To:* DECtalk > *Cc:* Blake Roberts > *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Josh, > > Since you "hired" a company or group of people to create a SAPI5 of > DECTalk, I am thinking you might have paid hundreds or thousands of > dollars. People/contracting companies are not hired for free. Will you > be offering the DECTalk SAPI5 to the DECTalk list, or is the installer > for your own private use only? If you plan to distribute the SAPI5 to > other DECTalk enthusiasts, will you charge individuals a set fee for > the installer? > > Blake > > On 6/30/2022 10:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: > > Hi, > > I got the following message from the people I have hired to make > the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into > a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s > IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands > rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if > this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as > sapi5 also. > > *From:* Rory MICHIE > > *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 > *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hello, > > This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it > seems the building blocks have already been built. > > Sent from Mail > for Windows > > *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM > *To: *Rory MICHIE > *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hello, > > It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts > sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The > github site and all its source code and his simple installer and > directions is at: > > https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS > > and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow > and implement Jake?s directions for installation and > uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. > Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust > speech rate, pitch and other sapi5 characteristics. If modifying > Jake?s scripts is much easier for you guys then just do that then. > Lots less work for you. > > *From:* Rory MICHIE > *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 > *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hello, > > Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and > pitch changes. > > However, there may be a workaround: > > An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each > time it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the > previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will > handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional > script that users can run to nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch > > We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, > since we can?t link to them without the correct function names, > parameters and calling conventions > > Regards, > > Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. > > Sent from Mail > for Windows > > *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM > *To: *Rory MICHIE > *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for > another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up > until now. > > Josh Kennedy > > *From:* Rory MICHIE > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 > *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom > *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hello, > > Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work > > Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with > research and programming. > > Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on > potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further > information. > > Sent from Mail > for Windows > > *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM > *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com > *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hi, > > If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 > interface and package them into an installer that would let the > user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before > installation? Also with ability for all punctuation just to be > sent directly to the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk > voice in other words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability > to adjust pitch volume and speech rate according to the range of > whatever decTalk?s parameters are. User would have to uninstall > decTalk and run installer again to install another version of decTalk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dectalk mailing list > > Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com > > https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk > > > _______________________________________________ > Dectalk mailing list > Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com > https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From BEarlRoberts at aol.com Fri Jul 1 08:52:30 2022 From: BEarlRoberts at aol.com (Blake Roberts) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 08:52:30 -0400 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: <35572d0b-6314-7d74-78c2-35e52ec06645@mjw.se> References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> <008601d88d3f$486c9000$d945b000$@gmail.com> <35572d0b-6314-7d74-78c2-35e52ec06645@mjw.se> Message-ID: <7c466e99-c4c9-2eca-8f54-bd0567969107@aol.com> To clarify Mattias reply a bit: Jake Gross's site has been down for months. Some members of this list figured that out shortly after he took his site offline. When his site is loaded, it still says: "Important Notice Since hosting large files impacts the survice of my hosting provider, I have taken all content offline." It would not surprise me at all if Jake allows his domain to expire rather than pay for (renew) a domain which has no content. Blake On 7/1/2022 7:45 AM, mattias wrote: > > jakes site are down > > Den 2022-07-01 kl. 13:39, skrev joshknnd1982 at gmail.com: >> >> Yes I will be paying a few hundred dollars for this out of my own >> pocket. I will be giving it away for free on this list and to anyone >> who wants it, ? and I also hope to do the same with the old >> willowPond tts, soon. That is, to have them modify Jake?s IBM tts >> sapi5 interface to load the old softVoice dlls. forever. I expect >> nothing in return and I will also try to find a way to put the sapi5 >> decTalk 4.41, 4.45 and 4.60, on the internet archive?s vintage >> software section. And I will definitely be giving it to Jake Gross >> for his website. >> >> *From:* Dectalk *On Behalf Of >> *Blake Roberts via Dectalk >> *Sent:* Friday, July 1, 2022 3:57 >> *To:* DECtalk >> *Cc:* Blake Roberts >> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Josh, >> >> Since you "hired" a company or group of people to create a SAPI5 of >> DECTalk, I am thinking you might have paid hundreds or thousands of >> dollars. People/contracting companies are not hired for free. Will >> you be offering the DECTalk SAPI5 to the DECTalk list, or is the >> installer for your own private use only? If you plan to distribute >> the SAPI5 to other DECTalk enthusiasts, will you charge individuals a >> set fee for the installer? >> >> Blake >> >> On 6/30/2022 10:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make >> the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls >> into a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s >> IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands >> rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if >> this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as >> sapi5 also. >> >> *From:* Rory MICHIE >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hello, >> >> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it >> seems the building blocks have already been built. >> >> Sent from Mail >> for Windows >> >> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >> *To: *Rory MICHIE >> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hello, >> >> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts >> sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The >> github site and all its source code and his simple installer and >> directions is at: >> >> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >> >> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow >> and implement Jake?s directions for installation and >> uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. >> Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust >> speech rate, pitch and other sapi5 characteristics. If modifying >> Jake?s scripts is much easier for you guys then just do that >> then. Lots less work for you. >> >> *From:* Rory MICHIE >> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hello, >> >> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and >> pitch changes. >> >> However, there may be a workaround: >> >> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each >> time it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the >> previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will >> handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional >> script that users can run to nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch >> >> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, >> since we can?t link to them without the correct function names, >> parameters and calling conventions >> >> Regards, >> >> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >> >> Sent from Mail >> for Windows >> >> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >> *To: *Rory MICHIE >> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for >> another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up >> until now. >> >> Josh Kennedy >> >> *From:* Rory MICHIE >> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hello, >> >> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >> >> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with >> research and programming. >> >> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on >> potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further >> information. >> >> Sent from Mail >> for Windows >> >> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >> >> Hi, >> >> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >> interface and package them into an installer that would let the >> user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before >> installation? Also with ability for all punctuation just to be >> sent directly to the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk >> voice in other words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability >> to adjust pitch volume and speech rate according to the range of >> whatever decTalk?s parameters are. 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URL: From mj at mjw.se Fri Jul 1 08:54:31 2022 From: mj at mjw.se (mattias jonsson) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 12:54:31 +0000 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: <7c466e99-c4c9-2eca-8f54-bd0567969107@aol.com> References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> <008601d88d3f$486c9000$d945b000$@gmail.com> <35572d0b-6314-7d74-78c2-35e52ec06645@mjw.se> <7c466e99-c4c9-2eca-8f54-bd0567969107@aol.com> Message-ID: That was exactly What i meen Skickades fr?n E-post f?r Windows Fr?n: Blake Roberts via Dectalk Skickat: den 1 juli 2022 14:53 Till: DECtalk Kopia: Blake Roberts ?mne: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer To clarify Mattias reply a bit: Jake Gross's site has been down for months. Some members of this list figured that out shortly after he took his site offline. When his site is loaded, it still says: "Important Notice Since hosting large files impacts the survice of my hosting provider, I have taken all content offline." It would not surprise me at all if Jake allows his domain to expire rather than pay for (renew) a domain which has no content. Blake On 7/1/2022 7:45 AM, mattias wrote: jakes site are down Den 2022-07-01 kl. 13:39, skrev joshknnd1982 at gmail.com: Yes I will be paying a few hundred dollars for this out of my own pocket. I will be giving it away for free on this list and to anyone who wants it, ? and I also hope to do the same with the old willowPond tts, soon. That is, to have them modify Jake?s IBM tts sapi5 interface to load the old softVoice dlls. forever. I expect nothing in return and I will also try to find a way to put the sapi5 decTalk 4.41, 4.45 and 4.60, on the internet archive?s vintage software section. And I will definitely be giving it to Jake Gross for his website. From: Dectalk On Behalf Of Blake Roberts via Dectalk Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 3:57 To: DECtalk Cc: Blake Roberts Subject: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer Josh, Since you "hired" a company or group of people to create a SAPI5 of DECTalk, I am thinking you might have paid hundreds or thousands of dollars. People/contracting companies are not hired for free. Will you be offering the DECTalk SAPI5 to the DECTalk list, or is the installer for your own private use only? If you plan to distribute the SAPI5 to other DECTalk enthusiasts, will you charge individuals a set fee for the installer? Blake On 6/30/2022 10:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: Hi, I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. From: Rory MICHIE Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems the building blocks have already been built. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch changes. However, there may be a workaround: An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters and calling conventions Regards, Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. Josh Kennedy From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 To: joshknnd1982 at gmailcom Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research and programming. Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM To: sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com Subject: decTalk sapi5 installer Hi, If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 interface and package them into an installer that would let the user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. 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Some members of this list figured that out shortly after he took his site offline. When his site is loaded, it still says: "Important Notice Since hosting large files impacts the survice of my hosting provider, I have taken all content offline." It would not surprise me at all if Jake allows his domain to expire rather than pay for (renew) a domain which has no content. Blake On 7/1/2022 7:45 AM, mattias wrote: jakes site are down Den 2022-07-01 kl. 13:39, skrev joshknnd1982 at gmail.com : Yes I will be paying a few hundred dollars for this out of my own pocket. I will be giving it away for free on this list and to anyone who wants it, and I also hope to do the same with the old willowPond tts, soon. That is, to have them modify Jake?s IBM tts sapi5 interface to load the old softVoice dlls. forever. I expect nothing in return and I will also try to find a way to put the sapi5 decTalk 4.41, 4.45 and 4.60, on the internet archive?s vintage software section. And I will definitely be giving it to Jake Gross for his website. From: Dectalk On Behalf Of Blake Roberts via Dectalk Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 3:57 To: DECtalk Cc: Blake Roberts Subject: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer Josh, Since you "hired" a company or group of people to create a SAPI5 of DECTalk, I am thinking you might have paid hundreds or thousands of dollars. People/contracting companies are not hired for free. Will you be offering the DECTalk SAPI5 to the DECTalk list, or is the installer for your own private use only? If you plan to distribute the SAPI5 to other DECTalk enthusiasts, will you charge individuals a set fee for the installer? Blake On 6/30/2022 10:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: Hi, I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. From: Rory MICHIE Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems the building blocks have already been built. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch changes. However, there may be a workaround: An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters and calling conventions Regards, Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. Josh Kennedy From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 To: joshknnd1982 at gmailcom Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research and programming. Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM To: sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com Subject: decTalk sapi5 installer Hi, If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 interface and package them into an installer that would let the user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. 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URL: From mj at mjw.se Fri Jul 1 09:11:08 2022 From: mj at mjw.se (mattias jonsson) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 13:11:08 +0000 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: <003901d88d4b$bc05ccf0$341166d0$@gmail.com> References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> <008601d88d3f$486c9000$d945b000$@gmail.com> <35572d0b-6314-7d74-78c2-35e52ec06645@mjw.se> <7c466e99-c4c9-2eca-8f54-bd0567969107@aol.com> <003901d88d4b$bc05ccf0$341166d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Seems lite suspect Skickades fr?n E-post f?r Windows Fr?n: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Skickat: den 1 juli 2022 15:09 Till: 'DECtalk' ?mne: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer No its back up. https://keybase.pub/datajake1999/Grossgang/ From: Dectalk On Behalf Of mattias jonsson Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 8:55 To: DECtalk Subject: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer That was exactly What i meen Skickades fr?n E-post f?r Windows Fr?n: Blake Roberts via Dectalk Skickat: den 1 juli 2022 14:53 Till: DECtalk Kopia: Blake Roberts ?mne: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer To clarify Mattias reply a bit: Jake Gross's site has been down for months. Some members of this list figured that out shortly after he took his site offline. When his site is loaded, it still says: "Important Notice Since hosting large files impacts the survice of my hosting provider, I have taken all content offline." It would not surprise me at all if Jake allows his domain to expire rather than pay for (renew) a domain which has no content. Blake On 7/1/2022 7:45 AM, mattias wrote: jakes site are down Den 2022-07-01 kl. 13:39, skrev joshknnd1982 at gmail.com: Yes I will be paying a few hundred dollars for this out of my own pocket. I will be giving it away for free on this list and to anyone who wants it, ? and I also hope to do the same with the old willowPond tts, soon. That is, to have them modify Jake?s IBM tts sapi5 interface to load the old softVoice dlls. forever. I expect nothing in return and I will also try to find a way to put the sapi5 decTalk 4.41, 4.45 and 4.60, on the internet archive?s vintage software section. And I will definitely be giving it to Jake Gross for his website. From: Dectalk On Behalf Of Blake Roberts via Dectalk Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 3:57 To: DECtalk Cc: Blake Roberts Subject: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer Josh, Since you "hired" a company or group of people to create a SAPI5 of DECTalk, I am thinking you might have paid hundreds or thousands of dollars. People/contracting companies are not hired for free. Will you be offering the DECTalk SAPI5 to the DECTalk list, or is the installer for your own private use only? If you plan to distribute the SAPI5 to other DECTalk enthusiasts, will you charge individuals a set fee for the installer? Blake On 6/30/2022 10:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: Hi, I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. From: Rory MICHIE Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems the building blocks have already been built. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 To: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch changes. However, there may be a workaround: An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters and calling conventions Regards, Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM To: Rory MICHIE Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. Josh Kennedy From: Rory MICHIE > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 To: joshknnd1982 at gmailcom Subject: RE: decTalk sapi5 installer Hello, Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research and programming. Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. Sent from Mail for Windows From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM To: sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com Subject: decTalk sapi5 installer Hi, If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 interface and package them into an installer that would let the user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. 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URL: From BEarlRoberts at aol.com Fri Jul 1 09:23:04 2022 From: BEarlRoberts at aol.com (Blake Roberts) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 09:23:04 -0400 Subject: [DECtalk] Jake Gross site In-Reply-To: <003901d88d4b$bc05ccf0$341166d0$@gmail.com> References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> <008601d88d3f$486c9000$d945b000$@gmail.com> <35572d0b-6314-7d74-78c2-35e52ec06645@mjw.se> <7c466e99-c4c9-2eca-8f54-bd0567969107@aol.com> <003901d88d4b$bc05ccf0$341166d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7fa7d015-51ea-5529-ea6f-15bf56da6033@aol.com> Josh, Thank you for the URL to Jake's site which is currently being hosted on another domain. We (other members of this list) were not previously aware of it. Blake On 7/1/2022 9:09 AM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: > > No its back up. > > https://keybase.pub/datajake1999/Grossgang/ > > *From:* Dectalk *On Behalf Of > *mattias jonsson > *Sent:* Friday, July 1, 2022 8:55 > *To:* DECtalk > *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer > > That was exactly What i meen > > Skickades fr?n E-post > f?r Windows > > *Fr?n: *Blake Roberts via Dectalk > *Skickat: *den 1 juli 2022 14:53 > *Till: *DECtalk > *Kopia: *Blake Roberts > *?mne: *Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer > > To clarify Mattias reply a bit: Jake Gross's site has been down for > months. Some members of this list figured that out shortly after he > took his site offline. > > When his site is loaded, it still says: > > "Important Notice > > Since hosting large files impacts the survice of my hosting provider, > I have taken all content offline." > > It would not surprise me at all if Jake allows his domain to expire > rather than pay for (renew) a domain which has no content. > > Blake > > On 7/1/2022 7:45 AM, mattias wrote: > > jakes site are down > > Den 2022-07-01 kl. 13:39, skrev joshknnd1982 at gmail.com: > > Yes I will be paying a few hundred dollars for this out of my > own pocket. I will be giving it away for free on this list and > to anyone who wants it, ? and I also hope to do the same with > the old willowPond tts, soon. That is, to have them modify > Jake?s IBM tts sapi5 interface to load the old softVoice dlls. > forever. I expect nothing in return and I will also try to > find a way to put the sapi5 decTalk 4.41, 4.45 and 4.60, on > the internet archive?s vintage software section. And I will > definitely be giving it to Jake Gross for his website. > > *From:* Dectalk > *On Behalf Of > *Blake Roberts via Dectalk > *Sent:* Friday, July 1, 2022 3:57 > *To:* DECtalk > > *Cc:* Blake Roberts > > *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Josh, > > Since you "hired" a company or group of people to create a > SAPI5 of DECTalk, I am thinking you might have paid hundreds > or thousands of dollars. People/contracting companies are not > hired for free. Will you be offering the DECTalk SAPI5 to the > DECTalk list, or is the installer for your own private use > only? If you plan to distribute the SAPI5 to other DECTalk > enthusiasts, will you charge individuals a set fee for the > installer? > > Blake > > On 6/30/2022 10:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: > > Hi, > > I got the following message from the people I have hired > to make the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 > and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 version. I recommended they > just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to > accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than eci.dll > and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I > may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. > > *From:* Rory MICHIE > > *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 > *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hello, > > This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, > as it seems the building blocks have already been built. > > Sent from Mail > for Windows > > *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM > *To: *Rory MICHIE > > *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hello, > > It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s > IBM-tts sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and > commands? The github site and all its source code and his > simple installer and directions is at: > > https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS > > and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just > follow and implement Jake?s directions for installation > and uninstallation but just change them slightly for > decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys out? And it would > also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other sapi5 > characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much > easier for you guys then just do that then. Lots less work > for you. > > *From:* Rory MICHIE > *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 > *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hello, > > Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate > and pitch changes. > > However, there may be a workaround: > > An advanced install wizard. It will automatically > configure each time it?s run, and each time it will retain > settings from the previous run which were not changed. The > install wizard will handle rate and pitch changes. We can > also create an optional script that users can run to nudge > DecTalk?s rate and pitch > > We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll > files, since we can?t link to them without the correct > function names, parameters and calling conventions > > Regards, > > Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. > > Sent from Mail > for Windows > > *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com > *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM > *To: *Rory MICHIE > > *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago > for another text-to-speech project I just forgot about > that one up until now. > > Josh Kennedy > > *From:* Rory MICHIE > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 > *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom > *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Hello, > > Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work > > Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed > with research and programming. > > Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending > on potential complexities. 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URL: From klewellen at shellworld.net Fri Jul 1 09:42:49 2022 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 09:42:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: well, apple could use one as well. On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Brandon Misch wrote: > now all we need is a version for android at some point if possible > > On 6/30/22, Isaac wrote: >> Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk? >> >> On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the >>> much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 >>> version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 >>> interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than >>> eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be >>> able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. >>> >>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems >>> the building blocks have already been built. >>> >>> Sent from Mail for >>> Windows >>> >>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 >>> interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site >>> and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: >>> >>> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >>> >>> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and >>> implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but >>> just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys >>> out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other >>> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for >>> you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. >>> >>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch >>> changes. >>> >>> However, there may be a workaround: >>> >>> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time >>> it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run >>> which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch >>> changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to >>> nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch >>> >>> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since >>> we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters >>> and calling conventions >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >>> >>> Sent from Mail for >>> Windows >>> >>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another >>> text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. >>> >>> Josh Kennedy >>> >>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >>> >>> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research >>> and programming. >>> >>> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential >>> complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. >>> >>> Sent from Mail for >>> Windows >>> >>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >>> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >>> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >>> interface and package them into an installer that would let the user >>> choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? >>> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the >>> synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose >>> all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech >>> rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. User >>> would have to uninstall decTalk and run installer again to install >>> another version of decTalk >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dectalk mailing list >>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk > > _______________________________________________ > Dectalk mailing list > Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com > https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk > From joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 10:02:46 2022 From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com (Josh Kennedy) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 10:02:46 -0400 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <582077CC-6905-4D31-844E-1B0267AD9F6C@gmail.com> Apple doesn't really need a version of deck talk, because the vintage Apple voices such as Fred, they can already sing and do most of the things that deck talk. Already does. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2022, at 09:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > ?well, apple could use one as well. > > > >> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Brandon Misch wrote: >> >> now all we need is a version for android at some point if possible >> >>> On 6/30/22, Isaac wrote: >>> Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk? >>> >>> On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the >>>> much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 >>>> version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 >>>> interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than >>>> eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be >>>> able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. >>>> >>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems >>>> the building blocks have already been built. >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for >>>> Windows >>>> >>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 >>>> interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site >>>> and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: >>>> >>>> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >>>> >>>> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and >>>> implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but >>>> just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys >>>> out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other >>>> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for >>>> you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. >>>> >>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch >>>> changes. >>>> >>>> However, there may be a workaround: >>>> >>>> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time >>>> it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run >>>> which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch >>>> changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to >>>> nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch >>>> >>>> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since >>>> we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters >>>> and calling conventions >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for >>>> Windows >>>> >>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>> >>>> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another >>>> text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. >>>> >>>> Josh Kennedy >>>> >>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >>>> >>>> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research >>>> and programming. >>>> >>>> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential >>>> complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for >>>> Windows >>>> >>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >>>> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >>>> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >>>> interface and package them into an installer that would let the user >>>> choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? >>>> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the >>>> synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose >>>> all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech >>>> rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. User >>>> would have to uninstall decTalk and run installer again to install >>>> another version of decTalk >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Dectalk mailing list >>>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dectalk mailing list >> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk > _______________________________________________ > Dectalk mailing list > Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com > https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk From klewellen at shellworld.net Fri Jul 1 10:55:21 2022 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 10:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: <582077CC-6905-4D31-844E-1B0267AD9F6C@gmail.com> References: <582077CC-6905-4D31-844E-1B0267AD9F6C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Apple does need a version of the dectalk so that those who use the vintage voices for their screen reader have choices. If they can add the dreadful eloquence, they can provide quality voices like Denis or even Paul. singing is a novelty, some of us use dec-talk for actual work. On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Josh Kennedy wrote: > Apple doesn't really need a version of deck talk, because the vintage Apple voices such as Fred, they can already sing and do most of the things that deck talk. Already does. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 1, 2022, at 09:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >> ?well, apple could use one as well. >> >> >> >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Brandon Misch wrote: >>> >>> now all we need is a version for android at some point if possible >>> >>>> On 6/30/22, Isaac wrote: >>>> Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk? >>>> >>>> On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the >>>>> much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 >>>>> version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 >>>>> interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than >>>>> eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be >>>>> able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems >>>>> the building blocks have already been built. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for >>>>> Windows >>>>> >>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 >>>>> interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site >>>>> and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >>>>> >>>>> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and >>>>> implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but >>>>> just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys >>>>> out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other >>>>> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for >>>>> you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch >>>>> changes. >>>>> >>>>> However, there may be a workaround: >>>>> >>>>> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time >>>>> it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run >>>>> which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch >>>>> changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to >>>>> nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch >>>>> >>>>> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since >>>>> we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters >>>>> and calling conventions >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for >>>>> Windows >>>>> >>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another >>>>> text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Kennedy >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >>>>> >>>>> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research >>>>> and programming. >>>>> >>>>> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential >>>>> complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for >>>>> Windows >>>>> >>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >>>>> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >>>>> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >>>>> interface and package them into an installer that would let the user >>>>> choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? >>>>> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the >>>>> synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose >>>>> all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech >>>>> rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. User >>>>> would have to uninstall decTalk and run installer again to install >>>>> another version of decTalk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Dectalk mailing list >>>>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>>>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dectalk mailing list >>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >> _______________________________________________ >> Dectalk mailing list >> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk > > _______________________________________________ > Dectalk mailing list > Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com > https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk > From joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 11:30:47 2022 From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com (joshknnd1982 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 11:30:47 -0400 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: References: <582077CC-6905-4D31-844E-1B0267AD9F6C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004501d88d5f$89f76110$9de62330$@gmail.com> Well I'm running the IOS beta with its feedback app, so I'll suggest they also add decTalk in there as well. -----Original Message----- From: Dectalk On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 10:55 To: DECtalk Subject: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer Apple does need a version of the dectalk so that those who use the vintage voices for their screen reader have choices. If they can add the dreadful eloquence, they can provide quality voices like Denis or even Paul. singing is a novelty, some of us use dec-talk for actual work. On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Josh Kennedy wrote: > Apple doesn't really need a version of deck talk, because the vintage Apple voices such as Fred, they can already sing and do most of the things that deck talk. Already does. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 1, 2022, at 09:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >> ?well, apple could use one as well. >> >> >> >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Brandon Misch wrote: >>> >>> now all we need is a version for android at some point if possible >>> >>>> On 6/30/22, Isaac wrote: >>>> Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk? >>>> >>>> On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make >>>>> the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into >>>>> a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s >>>>> IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands >>>>> rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if >>>>> this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it >>>>> seems the building blocks have already been built. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail >>>>> for Windows >>>>> >>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts >>>>> sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The >>>>> github site and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >>>>> >>>>> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow >>>>> and implement Jake?s directions for installation and >>>>> uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. >>>>> Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust >>>>> speech rate, pitch and other >>>>> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier >>>>> for you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and >>>>> pitch changes. >>>>> >>>>> However, there may be a workaround: >>>>> >>>>> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each >>>>> time it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the >>>>> previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will >>>>> handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional >>>>> script that users can run to nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch >>>>> >>>>> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, >>>>> since we can?t link to them without the correct function names, >>>>> parameters and calling conventions >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail >>>>> for Windows >>>>> >>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for >>>>> another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Kennedy >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >>>>> >>>>> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with >>>>> research and programming. >>>>> >>>>> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on >>>>> potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail >>>>> for Windows >>>>> >>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >>>>> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >>>>> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >>>>> interface and package them into an installer that would let the >>>>> user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? >>>>> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to >>>>> the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other >>>>> words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch >>>>> volume and speech rate according to the range of whatever >>>>> decTalk?s parameters are. User would have to uninstall decTalk and >>>>> run installer again to install another version of decTalk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Dectalk mailing list >>>>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>>>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dectalk mailing list >>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >> _______________________________________________ >> Dectalk mailing list >> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk > > _______________________________________________ > Dectalk mailing list > Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com > https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk > From klewellen at shellworld.net Fri Jul 1 11:43:25 2022 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 11:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: <004501d88d5f$89f76110$9de62330$@gmail.com> References: <582077CC-6905-4D31-844E-1B0267AD9F6C@gmail.com> <004501d88d5f$89f76110$9de62330$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I use a mac, so that would be macos. My personal combination of disability experiences currently make IOS physically harmful to use. On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: > Well I'm running the IOS beta with its feedback app, so I'll suggest they also add decTalk in there as well. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dectalk On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen > Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 10:55 > To: DECtalk > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer > > Apple does need a version of the dectalk so that those who use the vintage voices for their screen reader have choices. > If they can add the dreadful eloquence, they can provide quality voices like Denis or even Paul. > singing is a novelty, some of us use dec-talk for actual work. > > > > On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Josh Kennedy wrote: > >> Apple doesn't really need a version of deck talk, because the vintage Apple voices such as Fred, they can already sing and do most of the things that deck talk. Already does. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 1, 2022, at 09:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> >>> ?well, apple could use one as well. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Brandon Misch wrote: >>>> >>>> now all we need is a version for android at some point if possible >>>> >>>>> On 6/30/22, Isaac wrote: >>>>> Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk? >>>>> >>>>> On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make >>>>>> the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into >>>>>> a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s >>>>>> IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands >>>>>> rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if >>>>>> this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it >>>>>> seems the building blocks have already been built. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail >>>>>> for Windows >>>>>> >>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >>>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts >>>>>> sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The >>>>>> github site and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >>>>>> >>>>>> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow >>>>>> and implement Jake?s directions for installation and >>>>>> uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. >>>>>> Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust >>>>>> speech rate, pitch and other >>>>>> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier >>>>>> for you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and >>>>>> pitch changes. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, there may be a workaround: >>>>>> >>>>>> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each >>>>>> time it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the >>>>>> previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will >>>>>> handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional >>>>>> script that users can run to nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch >>>>>> >>>>>> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, >>>>>> since we can?t link to them without the correct function names, >>>>>> parameters and calling conventions >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail >>>>>> for Windows >>>>>> >>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >>>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>>> >>>>>> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for >>>>>> another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Kennedy >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >>>>>> >>>>>> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with >>>>>> research and programming. >>>>>> >>>>>> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on >>>>>> potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail >>>>>> for Windows >>>>>> >>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >>>>>> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >>>>>> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >>>>>> interface and package them into an installer that would let the >>>>>> user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? >>>>>> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to >>>>>> the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other >>>>>> words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch >>>>>> volume and speech rate according to the range of whatever >>>>>> decTalk?s parameters are. User would have to uninstall decTalk and >>>>>> run installer again to install another version of decTalk >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Dectalk mailing list >>>>>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>>>>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Dectalk mailing list >>>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dectalk mailing list >>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dectalk mailing list >> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Dectalk mailing list > Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com > https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk > From mj at mjw.se Fri Jul 1 14:29:26 2022 From: mj at mjw.se (mattias jonsson) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 18:29:26 +0000 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: <582077CC-6905-4D31-844E-1B0267AD9F6C@gmail.com> References: <582077CC-6905-4D31-844E-1B0267AD9F6C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Josh, are you sure the vintage apple voices dont are a modified dectalk At least fred Skickades fr?n E-post f?r Windows Fr?n: Josh Kennedy Skickat: den 1 juli 2022 16:03 Till: DECtalk ?mne: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer Apple doesn't really need a version of deck talk, because the vintage Apple voices such as Fred, they can already sing and do most of the things that deck talk. Already does. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2022, at 09:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > ?well, apple could use one as well. > > > >> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Brandon Misch wrote: >> >> now all we need is a version for android at some point if possible >> >>> On 6/30/22, Isaac wrote: >>> Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk? >>> >>> On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the >>>> much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 >>>> version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 >>>> interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than >>>> eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be >>>> able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. >>>> >>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems >>>> the building blocks have already been built. >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for >>>> Windows >>>> >>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 >>>> interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site >>>> and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: >>>> >>>> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >>>> >>>> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and >>>> implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but >>>> just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys >>>> out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other >>>> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for >>>> you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. >>>> >>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch >>>> changes. >>>> >>>> However, there may be a workaround: >>>> >>>> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time >>>> it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run >>>> which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch >>>> changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to >>>> nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch >>>> >>>> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since >>>> we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters >>>> and calling conventions >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for >>>> Windows >>>> >>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>> >>>> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another >>>> text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. >>>> >>>> Josh Kennedy >>>> >>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >>>> >>>> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research >>>> and programming. >>>> >>>> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential >>>> complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for >>>> Windows >>>> >>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >>>> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >>>> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >>>> interface and package them into an installer that would let the user >>>> choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? >>>> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the >>>> synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose >>>> all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech >>>> rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. 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URL: From mj at mjw.se Fri Jul 1 14:29:28 2022 From: mj at mjw.se (mattias jonsson) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 18:29:28 +0000 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: References: <582077CC-6905-4D31-844E-1B0267AD9F6C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Eloquence are not dreadful But rhvoice is Skickades fr?n E-post f?r Windows Fr?n: Karen Lewellen Skickat: den 1 juli 2022 16:55 Till: DECtalk ?mne: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer Apple does need a version of the dectalk so that those who use the vintage voices for their screen reader have choices. If they can add the dreadful eloquence, they can provide quality voices like Denis or even Paul. singing is a novelty, some of us use dec-talk for actual work. On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Josh Kennedy wrote: > Apple doesn't really need a version of deck talk, because the vintage Apple voices such as Fred, they can already sing and do most of the things that deck talk. Already does. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 1, 2022, at 09:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >> ?well, apple could use one as well. >> >> >> >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Brandon Misch wrote: >>> >>> now all we need is a version for android at some point if possible >>> >>>> On 6/30/22, Isaac wrote: >>>> Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk? >>>> >>>> On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the >>>>> much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 >>>>> version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 >>>>> interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than >>>>> eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be >>>>> able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems >>>>> the building blocks have already been built. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for >>>>> Windows >>>>> >>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts sapi5 >>>>> interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site >>>>> and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >>>>> >>>>> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and >>>>> implement Jake?s directions for installation and uninstallation but >>>>> just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys >>>>> out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other >>>>> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake?s scripts is much easier for >>>>> you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch >>>>> changes. >>>>> >>>>> However, there may be a workaround: >>>>> >>>>> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time >>>>> it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run >>>>> which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch >>>>> changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to >>>>> nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch >>>>> >>>>> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since >>>>> we can?t link to them without the correct function names, parameters >>>>> and calling conventions >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for >>>>> Windows >>>>> >>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another >>>>> text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Kennedy >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >>>>> >>>>> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research >>>>> and programming. >>>>> >>>>> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential >>>>> complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for >>>>> Windows >>>>> >>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >>>>> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >>>>> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >>>>> interface and package them into an installer that would let the user >>>>> choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? >>>>> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the >>>>> synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose >>>>> all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech >>>>> rate according to the range of whatever decTalk?s parameters are. 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URL: From joshknnd1982 at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 14:59:45 2022 From: joshknnd1982 at gmail.com (Josh Kennedy) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 14:59:45 -0400 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53E7C53D-EAAD-418F-B763-FE33A7DE12C6@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klewellen at shellworld.net Fri Jul 1 15:15:22 2022 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 15:15:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: References: <582077CC-6905-4D31-844E-1B0267AD9F6C@gmail.com> Message-ID: such is a matter of personal opinion to be sure. given my single, and highly unpleasant exposure was on a computer using Jaws some years back, blaming a new company does not impact my opinion. On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, mattias jonsson wrote: > Eloquence are not dreadful > > But rhvoice is > > > > Skickades fr??n E-post f??r Windows > > > > Fr??n: Karen Lewellen > Skickat: den 1 juli 2022 16:55 > Till: DECtalk > ??mne: Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer > > > > Apple does need a version of the dectalk so that those who use the vintage > voices for their screen reader have choices. > If they can add the dreadful eloquence, they can provide quality voices > like Denis or even Paul. > singing is a novelty, some of us use dec-talk for actual work. > > > > On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Josh Kennedy wrote: > >> Apple doesn't really need a version of deck talk, because the vintage Apple voices such as Fred, they can already sing and do most of the things that deck talk. Already does. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 1, 2022, at 09:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> >>> ???well, apple could use one as well. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Brandon Misch wrote: >>>> >>>> now all we need is a version for android at some point if possible >>>> >>>>> On 6/30/22, Isaac wrote: >>>>> Hi, where is the addon for nvda to use the non sapi 5 dectalk? >>>>> >>>>> On 6/30/2022 9:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make the >>>>>> much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls into a sapi5 >>>>>> version. I recommended they just modify Jake Gross???s IBM-tts sapi5 >>>>>> interface to accept, load, and use decTalk commands rather than >>>>>> eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. And if this works I may be >>>>>> able to get the old WillowPond tts dlls as sapi5 also. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it seems >>>>>> the building blocks have already been built. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail for >>>>>> Windows >>>>>> >>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >>>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake???s IBM-tts sapi5 >>>>>> interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The github site >>>>>> and all its source code and his simple installer and directions is at: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >>>>>> >>>>>> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just follow and >>>>>> implement Jake???s directions for installation and uninstallation but >>>>>> just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. Would that help you guys >>>>>> out? And it would also let users adjust speech rate, pitch and other >>>>>> sapi5 characteristics. If modifying Jake???s scripts is much easier for >>>>>> you guys then just do that then. Lots less work for you. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and pitch >>>>>> changes. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, there may be a workaround: >>>>>> >>>>>> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each time >>>>>> it???s run, and each time it will retain settings from the previous run >>>>>> which were not changed. The install wizard will handle rate and pitch >>>>>> changes. We can also create an optional script that users can run to >>>>>> nudge DecTalk???s rate and pitch >>>>>> >>>>>> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, since >>>>>> we can???t link to them without the correct function names, parameters >>>>>> and calling conventions >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail for >>>>>> Windows >>>>>> >>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >>>>>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>>>>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>>> >>>>>> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for another >>>>>> text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up until now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Kennedy >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >>>>>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >>>>>> >>>>>> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with research >>>>>> and programming. >>>>>> >>>>>> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on potential >>>>>> complexities. We will contact you regarding any further information. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail for >>>>>> Windows >>>>>> >>>>>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >>>>>> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >>>>>> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >>>>>> interface and package them into an installer that would let the user >>>>>> choose their favorite decTalk version during or before installation? >>>>>> Also with ability for all punctuation just to be sent directly to the >>>>>> synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk voice in other words expose >>>>>> all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability to adjust pitch volume and speech >>>>>> rate according to the range of whatever decTalk???s parameters are. User >>>>>> would have to uninstall decTalk and run installer again to install >>>>>> another version of decTalk >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Dectalk mailing list >>>>>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>>>>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Dectalk mailing list >>>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dectalk mailing list >>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dectalk mailing list >> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >> > From klewellen at shellworld.net Fri Jul 1 15:21:54 2022 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 15:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: <53E7C53D-EAAD-418F-B763-FE33A7DE12C6@gmail.com> References: <53E7C53D-EAAD-418F-B763-FE33A7DE12C6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Speaking as someone who just started running Catalina on a 15 inch retina macbook pro mid 2012, and who uses dectalk voices on my main computer every single day, I dispute this claim. I understand that Fred is even worse on later machines then what I am getting now. So, no on that probably. In fact it is more likely the voices are based on what apple had created when working closely with the developers of outspoken. Apple has only had two formal screen readers, outspoken and voiceover. some of the main voices match those in outspoken. On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Josh Kennedy wrote: [NON-Text Body part not included] From Text_to_Speech at GMX.com Fri Jul 1 15:54:51 2022 From: Text_to_Speech at GMX.com (Don) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 12:54:51 -0700 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: References: <582077CC-6905-4D31-844E-1B0267AD9F6C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5426f43c-4b51-1a63-47cc-34a51d5dd2c3@GMX.com> On 7/1/2022 7:55 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Apple does need a version of the dectalk so that those who use the vintage > voices for their screen reader have choices. > If they can add the dreadful eloquence, they can provide quality voices like > Denis or even Paul. To a zero-th order approximation, one can get a feel for the underlying technology in the synthesizer by examining the installed binaries. Formant-based synthezisers (DECtalk et al.) have a relatively small footprint. If you DON'T include a pronunciation dictionary in the binary (which makes it easier to sort out HOW to convert a particular sequence of glyphs to sounds), then the next largest component is the set of rules for doing this. The actual synthesizer is relatively small as it is just a collection of math routines that are imposed several times (one for each formant). Examining a binary with the strings(1) command will show a large number of hits, often in alphabetical order; each of the words in the dictionary! This isn't always the case as smarter implementations wouldn't store entire words as they would be more costly in terms of space and execution time. For example, "about" and "above" have three initial letters in common -- if the software has found A B and O but the next letter is not U, why would it want to backtrack and check the A B and O, again, in case it's above? Just look for the V! A "voice" in a formant-based synthesizer is a SMALL collection of numbers that define the characteristics of the vocal tract model. (This assumes we are dealing with a single language; a voice for a different language will have different glyph-to-sound rules which, as above, can be large). By contrast, a diphone synthesizer (usually more natural speech) has a large "inventory" of actual speech snippets that are mashed together and "smoothed" to form continuous sounds. Look at the controls that you have (even if they are hidden under the hood) for the voice. Volume is a no-brainer -- not even related to synthesis (except WITHIN a spoken utterance -- like for emphasis). Pitch can usually be adjusted for every synthesizer type. Likewise, speaking rate. Even the Votrax had these. My MITtalk work-alike allows my users to decide if the voice is that of a young child, woman, man, etc. by adjusting things like "head size" (which affects the dimensions of the vocal tract), pitch, rate, etc. The more malleable the voice, the greater the likelihood that it is driven by a model -- like formants. I can make a boy sound like a man or a man sound like a woman from one word to the next. I can potentially have 100 different "people" speaking in a given session. Doing this with other technologies becomes costly. I, for example, use this to give status and error messages in a different voice so the user is made aware that the normal information low is being interrupted. > singing is a novelty, some of us use dec-talk for actual work. Yes, I've never understood the fascination with that. The controls that make singing possible are side-effects of being able to define a voice. Or, impose prosody, stress/emphasis, etc. OTOH, I can recall configuring multiple Reading Machines to recite a "round" of "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" -- utterly dreadful with the Votrax! From bigikemusic at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 16:45:16 2022 From: bigikemusic at gmail.com (Isaac) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 15:45:16 -0500 Subject: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer In-Reply-To: <7c466e99-c4c9-2eca-8f54-bd0567969107@aol.com> References: <001201d88668$e15192d0$a3f4b870$@gmail.com> <8F914F66-886B-4392-938A-B30BD7AA9B8F@hxcore.ol> <006301d887cf$1c4b3320$54e19960$@gmail.com> <000001d88cd4$a85667e0$f90337a0$@gmail.com> <000201d88cf3$caf253d0$60d6fb70$@gmail.com> <008601d88d3f$486c9000$d945b000$@gmail.com> <35572d0b-6314-7d74-78c2-35e52ec06645@mjw.se> <7c466e99-c4c9-2eca-8f54-bd0567969107@aol.com> Message-ID: If you guys need a place to host, I can give links to my google drive as I pay for a subscription there. On 7/1/2022 7:52 AM, Blake Roberts via Dectalk wrote: > > To clarify Mattias reply a bit: Jake Gross's site has been down for > months. Some members of this list figured that out shortly after he > took his site offline. > > When his site is loaded, it still says: > > > > "Important Notice > > Since hosting large files impacts the survice of my hosting provider, > I have taken all content offline." > > > > It would not surprise me at all if Jake allows his domain to expire > rather than pay for (renew) a domain which has no content. > > Blake > > > > On 7/1/2022 7:45 AM, mattias wrote: >> >> jakes site are down >> >> Den 2022-07-01 kl. 13:39, skrev joshknnd1982 at gmail.com: >>> >>> Yes I will be paying a few hundred dollars for this out of my own >>> pocket. I will be giving it away for free on this list and to anyone >>> who wants it, ? and I also hope to do the same with the old >>> willowPond tts, soon. That is, to have them modify Jake?s IBM tts >>> sapi5 interface to load the old softVoice dlls. forever. I expect >>> nothing in return and I will also try to find a way to put the sapi5 >>> decTalk 4.41, 4.45 and 4.60, on the internet archive?s vintage >>> software section. And I will definitely be giving it to Jake Gross >>> for his website. >>> >>> *From:* Dectalk *On Behalf Of >>> *Blake Roberts via Dectalk >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 1, 2022 3:57 >>> *To:* DECtalk >>> *Cc:* Blake Roberts >>> *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> Josh, >>> >>> Since you "hired" a company or group of people to create a SAPI5 of >>> DECTalk, I am thinking you might have paid hundreds or thousands of >>> dollars. People/contracting companies are not hired for free. Will >>> you be offering the DECTalk SAPI5 to the DECTalk list, or is the >>> installer for your own private use only? If you plan to distribute >>> the SAPI5 to other DECTalk enthusiasts, will you charge individuals >>> a set fee for the installer? >>> >>> Blake >>> >>> On 6/30/2022 10:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I got the following message from the people I have hired to make >>> the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls >>> into a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake >>> Gross?s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk >>> commands rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. >>> And if this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts >>> dlls as sapi5 also. >>> >>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it >>> seems the building blocks have already been built. >>> >>> Sent from Mail >>> for Windows >>> >>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake?s IBM-tts >>> sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The >>> github site and all its source code and his simple installer and >>> directions is at: >>> >>> https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >>> >>> and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just >>> follow and implement Jake?s directions for installation and >>> uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. >>> Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust >>> speech rate, pitch and other sapi5 characteristics. If modifying >>> Jake?s scripts is much easier for you guys then just do that >>> then. Lots less work for you. >>> >>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and >>> pitch changes. >>> >>> However, there may be a workaround: >>> >>> An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each >>> time it?s run, and each time it will retain settings from the >>> previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will >>> handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional >>> script that users can run to nudge DecTalk?s rate and pitch >>> >>> We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, >>> since we can?t link to them without the correct function names, >>> parameters and calling conventions >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >>> >>> Sent from Mail >>> for Windows >>> >>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>> *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >>> *To: *Rory MICHIE >>> *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for >>> another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up >>> until now. >>> >>> Josh Kennedy >>> >>> *From:* Rory MICHIE >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >>> *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >>> *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >>> >>> Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with >>> research and programming. >>> >>> Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on >>> potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any >>> further information. >>> >>> Sent from Mail >>> for Windows >>> >>> *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >>> *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >>> *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >>> interface and package them into an installer that would let the >>> user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before >>> installation? Also with ability for all punctuation just to be >>> sent directly to the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk >>> voice in other words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability >>> to adjust pitch volume and speech rate according to the range of >>> whatever decTalk?s parameters are. User would have to uninstall >>> decTalk and run installer again to install another version of >>> decTalk >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Dectalk mailing list >>> >>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>> >>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dectalk mailing list >>> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >>> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dectalk mailing list >> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk > > _______________________________________________ > Dectalk mailing list > Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com > https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Isaac wrote: > If you guys need a place to host, I can give links to my google drive as I > pay for a subscription there. > > On 7/1/2022 7:52 AM, Blake Roberts via Dectalk wrote: >> >> To clarify Mattias reply a bit: Jake Gross's site has been down for >> months. Some members of this list figured that out shortly after he took >> his site offline. >> >> When his site is loaded, it still says: >> >> >> >> "Important Notice >> >> Since hosting large files impacts the survice of my hosting provider, I >> have taken all content offline." >> >> >> >> It would not surprise me at all if Jake allows his domain to expire rather >> than pay for (renew) a domain which has no content. >> >> Blake >> >> >> >> On 7/1/2022 7:45 AM, mattias wrote: >> > >> > jakes site are down >> > >> > Den 2022-07-01 kl. 13:39, skrev joshknnd1982 at gmail.com: >> > > >> > > Yes I will be paying a few hundred dollars for this out of my own >> > > pocket. I will be giving it away for free on this list and to anyone >> > > who wants it, ??? and I also hope to do the same with the old >> > > willowPond tts, soon. That is, to have them modify Jake???s IBM tts >> > > sapi5 interface to load the old softVoice dlls. forever. I expect >> > > nothing in return and I will also try to find a way to put the sapi5 >> > > decTalk 4.41, 4.45 and 4.60, on the internet archive???s vintage >> > > software section. And I will definitely be giving it to Jake Gross for >> > > his website. >> > > >> > > *From:* Dectalk *On Behalf Of >> > > *Blake Roberts via Dectalk >> > > *Sent:* Friday, July 1, 2022 3:57 >> > > *To:* DECtalk >> > > *Cc:* Blake Roberts >> > > *Subject:* Re: [DECtalk] FW: decTalk sapi5 installer >> > > >> > > Josh, >> > > >> > > Since you "hired" a company or group of people to create a SAPI5 of >> > > DECTalk, I am thinking you might have paid hundreds or thousands of >> > > dollars. People/contracting companies are not hired for free. Will you >> > > be offering the DECTalk SAPI5 to the DECTalk list, or is the installer >> > > for your own private use only? If you plan to distribute the SAPI5 to >> > > other DECTalk enthusiasts, will you charge individuals a set fee for >> > > the installer? >> > > >> > > Blake >> > > >> > > On 6/30/2022 10:39 PM, joshknnd1982 at gmail.com wrote: >> > > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > I got the following message from the people I have hired to make >> > > the much older good-sounding decTalk 4.41, 4.51 and 4.60 dlls >> > > into a sapi5 version. I recommended they just modify Jake >> > > Gross???s IBM-tts sapi5 interface to accept, load, and use decTalk >> > > commands rather than eci.dll and IBM-tts and eloquence commands. >> > > And if this works I may be able to get the old WillowPond tts >> > > dlls as sapi5 also. >> > > >> > > *From:* Rory MICHIE >> > > >> > > *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2022 21:57 >> > > *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> > > *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> > > >> > > Hello, >> > > >> > > This is certainly a possibility. We will look into this, as it >> > > seems the building blocks have already been built. >> > > >> > > Sent from Mail >> > > for Windows >> > > >> > > *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> > > *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2022 8:56 AM >> > > *To: *Rory MICHIE >> > > *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> > > >> > > Hello, >> > > >> > > It may take you far less time if you just modify Jake???s IBM-tts >> > > sapi5 interface to load and use decTalk dlls and commands? The >> > > github site and all its source code and his simple installer and >> > > directions is at: >> > > >> > > https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS >> > > >> > > and to make things easier and less work for you guys, just >> > > follow and implement Jake???s directions for installation and >> > > uninstallation but just change them slightly for decTalk dlls. >> > > Would that help you guys out? And it would also let users adjust >> > > speech rate, pitch and other sapi5 characteristics. If modifying >> > > Jake???s scripts is much easier for you guys then just do that >> > > then. Lots less work for you. >> > > >> > > *From:* Rory MICHIE >> > > *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 13:23 >> > > *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> > > *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> > > >> > > Hello, >> > > >> > > Unfortunately we will not be able to implement speech rate and >> > > pitch changes. >> > > >> > > However, there may be a workaround: >> > > >> > > An advanced install wizard. It will automatically configure each >> > > time it???s run, and each time it will retain settings from the >> > > previous run which were not changed. The install wizard will >> > > handle rate and pitch changes. We can also create an optional >> > > script that users can run to nudge DecTalk???s rate and pitch >> > > >> > > We will also need the documentation for the decTalk dll files, >> > > since we can???t link to them without the correct function names, >> > > parameters and calling conventions >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > >> > > Sightless Wolf Entertainment team. >> > > >> > > Sent from Mail >> > > for Windows >> > > >> > > *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> > > *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 11:34 PM >> > > *To: *Rory MICHIE >> > > *Subject: *RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> > > >> > > $500 sounds good that is what I paid about 16 years ago for >> > > another text-to-speech project I just forgot about that one up >> > > until now. >> > > >> > > Josh Kennedy >> > > >> > > *From:* Rory MICHIE >> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 18:46 >> > > *To:* joshknnd1982 at gmailcom >> > > *Subject:* RE: decTalk sapi5 installer >> > > >> > > Hello, >> > > >> > > Thank you for contacting us regarding your freelance work >> > > >> > > Please send the team the DLL files and we will proceed with >> > > research and programming. >> > > >> > > Note: the programming might take up to a month, depending on >> > > potential complexities. We will contact you regarding any >> > > further information. >> > > >> > > Sent from Mail >> > > for Windows >> > > >> > > *From: *joshknnd1982 at gmail.com >> > > *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:50 AM >> > > *To: *sightlesswolfentertainment at gmail.com >> > > *Subject: *decTalk sapi5 installer >> > > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > If I send you three decTalk dll files, could you make a sapi5 >> > > interface and package them into an installer that would let the >> > > user choose their favorite decTalk version during or before >> > > installation? Also with ability for all punctuation just to be >> > > sent directly to the synthesizer, ability to choose any decTalk >> > > voice in other words expose all decTalk voices to sapi5, ability >> > > to adjust pitch volume and speech rate according to the range of >> > > whatever decTalk???s parameters are. User would have to uninstall >> > > decTalk and run installer again to install another version of >> > > decTalk >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > >> > > Dectalk mailing list >> > > >> > > Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >> > > >> > > https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Dectalk mailing list >> > > Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >> > > https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Dectalk mailing list >> > Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >> > https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dectalk mailing list >> Dectalk at bluegrasspals.com >> https://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk > From BEarlRoberts at aol.com Thu Jul 7 18:38:45 2022 From: BEarlRoberts at aol.com (Blake Roberts) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2022 18:38:45 -0400 Subject: [DECtalk] DECTalk song request References: Message-ID: Hi everyone, List member Snoopi Botten is currently working on a patriotic-themed CD. He originally planned to release it before the American Fourth of July holiday. Circumstances made that impossible. As some long-time list members know, he programs DECTalk to sing so that people such as himself whose speech is difficult to understand can sing just like everyone else. There is one song on his upcoming CD which Snoopi is not able to program in DECTalk because he cannot find the sheet music. It is "America" by Waylon Jennings. I had offered to program it by ear, but changed my mind eventually because the lyrics almost put me to sleep. Would anyone on this list be willing to voluntarily program the song in DECTalk for mixing with music? Here is a link to the Waylon Jennings version on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XdejS22fZQ Blake From Text_to_Speech at GMX.com Fri Jul 8 20:16:24 2022 From: Text_to_Speech at GMX.com (Don) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2022 17:16:24 -0700 Subject: [DECtalk] DECTalk song request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <432c5d9b-067a-8065-dfc5-73306b3c8a06@GMX.com> On 7/7/2022 3:38 PM, Blake Roberts via Dectalk wrote: > There is one song on his upcoming CD which Snoopi is not able to program in > DECTalk because he cannot find the sheet music. It is "America" by Waylon > Jennings. I had offered to program it by ear, but changed my mind eventually > because the lyrics almost put me to sleep. Would anyone on this list be willing > to voluntarily program the song in DECTalk for mixing with music? Here is a > link to the Waylon Jennings version on YouTube: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XdejS22fZQ I have tools that extract pitch from speech (even if it is sung). I use this to create synthetic voices that "match" a person's spoken voice. I can then generate sheet music from this data. But, the background music confused them. So, the effort was a bust. A quick search for exiting (print) sheet music was also a bust.