[DECtalk] some very very great news

Mohamed malhajamy at gmail.com
Thu Sep 24 21:38:12 EDT 2015


What exactly is SAPI 5 sending to the synth that could interfere?

On 09/24/15 08:33 PM, Alex H. via Dectalk wrote:
> sapi5 won't work because there's things that get sent after your
> string, in other words it parses it differently. At least, from what
> I'm able to figure out from experiments.
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> On 9/24/15, Mohamed via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> And I'm also thinking about if this would work in the sapi 5 DECtalk,
>> although it might depend on if it's able to pass it. Because I was
>> looking at the NVDA log, and it seems to be just sending index commands
>> when it reads phonemes, and I'm wondering if SAPI 5 would handle it
>> properly.
>>
>> On 09/24/15 06:06 PM, Mohamed wrote:
>>> ON a sidenote, the softvoice add on can handle commands sent to it in
>>> a similar way. You have to add the left and right double braces to the
>>> symbols dictionary manually though, to said the preservation to always
>>> there as well, and you can then pass commands to softvoice.
>>>
>>> On 09/24/15 05:53 PM, brandon T via Dectalk wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> If it's just the single add-on, I think it's 4.60.
>>>> This is different than the 4.6.1 and 4.6.4 versions.
>>>>
>>>> It's the one that came with Window-Eyes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Brandon
>>>>
>>>> On 9/24/15, Mohamed via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>> Although, if you want to actually do serious singing, it's still not a
>>>>> replacement for the speak window, as it is still somewhat buggy. For
>>>>> instance, there's a bug where it will reset speech back to what NVDA
>>>>> had
>>>>> set every line. For example, if you typed into a text editor, [:nf]
>>>>> I am
>>>>> alive. I am DECtalk. I am still here even now. Don't you think it's
>>>>> still awesome that certain people still like me? I sure do! and pasted
>>>>> it in and read it, NVDA will reset it back to Paul in the second
>>>>> sentence. Also, it seems that if you adjust rates, consonants are
>>>>> lengthened or shortened. For example, try removing the rate parameters
>>>>> from the Rickety tickety Tin song that's on Snoopi Botton's site, and
>>>>> drag the speed around in NVDA, you'll notice the effect it has on the
>>>>> consonants, it makes the song sound faster or slower. Although it races
>>>>> the question, I'm wondering what version of DECtalk the add on is
>>>>> using?
>>>>> It might be 4.3, because it does have a little bit of vibrato in its
>>>>> singing.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/24/15 01:20 PM, Alex H. via Dectalk wrote:
>>>>>> Woe man! That's actually really, really cool!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great news indeed. It'll make working at a desk all day real fun. :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/24/15, Mohamed via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi everyone. I have some very,, very, very great news to tell you
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>> The NVDA DECtalk can now not only process commands, but can now sing!
>>>>>>> Here's how you get it to work. First, ensure you have the latest next
>>>>>>> snapshot of NVDA with DECtalk installed. Then, go into your
>>>>>>> dectalk.py
>>>>>>> file. There's a line of code that is actually blocking speech
>>>>>>> commands
>>>>>>> from coming to the synthesizer. It's marked with the comment,
>>>>>>> "#prevent
>>>>>>> control strings from going into our text", just search for a
>>>>>>> number sign
>>>>>>> and it will come up. Although if you want the code quickly, paste
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> line into the find dialog. Note: be sure to tab three times, I am
>>>>>>> unable
>>>>>>> to put them here because thunderbird just puts several spaces
>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>> the tab symbol.
>>>>>>> item = item.replace('[:', ' ')
>>>>>>> Remove that line only, and leave the rest. Now, there's a new
>>>>>>> combo box
>>>>>>> introduced in the latest next snapshot of NVDA called send actual
>>>>>>> symbol
>>>>>>> to synthesizer. Find the left bracket, right bracket, underline, less
>>>>>>> than, greater than, and colon symbols. In the combo box that says
>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>> actual symbol to synthesizer, set that option to always for each
>>>>>>> symbol.
>>>>>>> And, enjoy your new singing NVDA!
>>>>>>> PS.
>>>>>>> Make sure you read it from the top of the file from the [:phone on]
>>>>>>> command to the end so DECtalk can process them correctly.
>>>>>>> PPS
>>>>>>> Since NVDA has no synth specific symbols dictionary, you may
>>>>>>> notice side
>>>>>>> effects of the change with other synthesizers.
>>>>>>> Hope you guys enjoy.
>>>>>>>
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